Baby 'starved to death' because he did not say Amen

Post Reply
User avatar
goodboyCerberus
Posts: 108
Joined: Thu Feb 25, 2010 3:47 am
About me: They mostly come at night. Mostly.
Location: Columbia, Maryland, USA
Contact:

Baby 'starved to death' because he did not say Amen

Post by goodboyCerberus » Fri Feb 26, 2010 5:06 am

This hasn't been posted before, has it? If so, my apologies. I ran a search and skimmed this subforum. :dono:

http://www.smh.com.au/world/baby-starve ... -p4el.html
The AP wrote:For more than a week, Ria Ramkissoon watched passively as her one-year-old son wasted away, denied food and water because the older woman she lived with said it was God's will.

Javon Thompson was possessed by an evil spirit, Ramkissoon was told, because he didn't say "Amen" during a mealtime prayer. Javon didn't talk much, given his age, but he had said "Amen" before, Ramkissoon testified in a US court in Baltimore.

On the day Javon died, Ramkissoon was told to "nurture him back to life". She mashed up some carrots and tried to feed the boy, but he was no longer able to swallow. Ramkissoon put her hands on his chest to confirm that his heart had stopped beating.

Ramkissoon and several other people knelt down and prayed that he would rise from the dead. For weeks afterward, Ramkissoon spent much of her time in a room with her son's emaciated body — talking to him, dancing, even giving him water. She thought she could bring him back.

Ramkissoon told the tale of her son's excruciating death from the witness stand on Wednesday, at the trial of the woman she says told her not to feed the boy. Queen Antoinette was the leader of a small religious cult, according to police and prosecutors, and she faces murder charges alongside her daughter, Trevia Williams, and another follower, Marcus A. Cobbs.

The three are acting as their own attorneys.

Javon died in either December 2006 or January 2007; Ramkissoon isn't sure of the exact date. His body was hidden in a suitcase for more than a year and has since been buried. But even now, she maintains her faith in his resurrection.

"I still believe that my son is coming back," Ramkissoon said. "I have no problem saying what really happened because I believe he's coming back.

"Queen said God told her he would come back. I believe it. I choose to believe it," she said. "Even now, despite everything, I choose to believe it for my reasons."

Later, she acknowledged that her faith makes her sound crazy. "I don't have a problem sounding crazy in court," she said.

Ramkissoon, 23, was born in Trinidad and moved to Baltimore at age seven. She stands 5 feet (1.52 metres) tall and weighs about 100 pounds (45.4 kilograms).

She wore a white sweater and blue jeans and was calm throughout her testimony, speaking in a clear and even voice. She appeared mildly agitated at certain questions but otherwise showed little emotion, even as she described how her starving son lost weight, became lethargic and lost his voice.

She was led to the courtroom in handcuffs. She pleaded guilty last year to child abuse resulting in death, agreeing to the deal only under the condition that if Javon is resurrected, the plea will be vacated. Prosecutors and a judge accepted that extraordinary condition, specifying that only a "Jesus-like resurrection" would suffice.

Because Antoinette is representing herself, she was able to cross-examine the young woman who lived with her for two years, much of that time after her son's death.

Antoinette asked whether her statement about not feeding Javon was an order or a "suggestion".

Ramkissoon said she has consistently told prosecutors and her attorney that she was not forced to starve her son, but she made clear the idea was Antoinette's.

"When I was about to feed him," Ramkissoon said to Antoinette, "you said, 'You shouldn't feed him anything', and then you told me why. ... I believed you."

Williams and Cobbs also lived in the home, along with Antoinette's three other children and a childhood friend of Ramkissoon's. No one challenged Antoinette's statement that the boy should not be fed, Ramkissoon said.

Ramkissoon detailed how the group relocated to Philadelphia and brought Javon's body in a suitcase. She described how Javon was packed with sheets and blankets and how she sprayed his body with disinfectant and stuffed the suitcase with fabric softener sheets to mask the odour.

The suitcase was hidden in a shed in Philadelphia for more than a year before it was discovered by police, according to testimony.

Members of Antoinette's household were told to wear only white, blue and khaki. They left the home only in pairs, and they avoided doctors or hospitals. They destroyed identification cards and had little contact with their families.

Ramkissoon said she often questioned Antoinette's rules and orders but never disobeyed her because she believed her to be "a godly woman".

"Looking back now," Ramkissoon told Antoinette, "I won't say that everything you thought was right, was right."

AP
:nono:

How do things like this happen? Seriously. How did we get this far as a species with actors like these?
Image
Charity Navigator - "Find a charity you can trust."

User avatar
Wumbologist
I want a do-over
Posts: 4720
Joined: Thu Feb 25, 2010 4:04 pm
Contact:

Re: Baby 'starved to death' because he did not say Amen

Post by Wumbologist » Fri Feb 26, 2010 5:44 am

Ugh. I bet Jesus loves that sick fucking cunt too.

User avatar
MattHunX
Posts: 43
Joined: Tue Feb 23, 2010 3:13 pm
About me: I love science-fiction, I like listening to music (all kinds, but mostly power-metal), gaming and daydreaming a lot. Also reading a book now and then and some articles.
Location: Milky Way/Sol/Earth/Mid-East European Backwater (aka Hungary)
Contact:

Re: Baby 'starved to death' because he did not say Amen

Post by MattHunX » Fri Feb 26, 2010 10:00 am

I don't know about you people, but I can't even bring myself to read this thing through. Only a few lines in it, and I'm already pissed off.

Stupid people. Stupid old woman (probably conservative). Even more stupid mother. Hope they'll sentence both of them to death. How can...!?

:levi: (not working)
Last edited by MattHunX on Fri Feb 26, 2010 1:46 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Once he ruled all his lands with a firm iron hand,
Not a queen by his side never knew the reason why
At the end of the tale I now finally see
That the Tragic King is me

All alone on my throne once held powers so strong
Searched for wisdom of Gods and the will to carry on
In my eyes you can see peaceful rest finally
Behold King of Tragedy

Axenstar - King of Tragedy

User avatar
Thinking Aloud
Page Bottomer
Posts: 20111
Joined: Thu Feb 26, 2009 10:56 am
Contact:

Re: Baby 'starved to death' because he did not say Amen

Post by Thinking Aloud » Fri Feb 26, 2010 10:10 am

Sometimes, reading stories like this, I find myself silently relieved that the child doesn't have to live any more of that kind of life, and pity her other kids that do. All I can hope is that they'll escape one day. :(

User avatar
rab
Posts: 75
Joined: Thu Feb 25, 2010 11:50 pm
About me: I follow politics and church/state issues.
Location: Maine U.S.A
Contact:

Re: Baby 'starved to death' because he did not say Amen

Post by rab » Fri Feb 26, 2010 1:24 pm

I remember when this story first made headlines. I'm surprised it took this long for it to go to trial. I think this "Queen" should get a life sentence. She's sadistic and cruel and is as guilty as if she'd taken a gun to his head. As appalling as the victim's mother actions were, I think she was brainwashed and should get some serious counseling. Jail time, perhaps, but not a lengthy sentence. I think she was a victim too.
Support Church/State Separation
Freedom From Religion Foundation

User avatar
Horwood Beer-Master
"...a complete Kentish hog"
Posts: 7061
Joined: Thu Feb 26, 2009 2:34 pm
Location: Wandering somewhere around the Darenth Valley - Kent
Contact:

Re: Baby 'starved to death' because he did not say Amen

Post by Horwood Beer-Master » Fri Feb 26, 2010 2:04 pm

goodboyCerberus wrote:...
The AP wrote:...Ramkissoon and several other people knelt down and prayed that he would rise from the dead. For weeks afterward, Ramkissoon spent much of her time in a room with her son's emaciated body — talking to him, dancing, even giving him water. She thought she could bring him back...
...
I've said it before, and I'll say it again. Possessing the biological ability to breed, does not equal having an automatic right to do so.
Image

Post Reply

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: Google [Bot], pErvinalia and 19 guests