Screw you guys.

[Gawdzilla Sama]

Online gaming certainly does. Winning.

And what have you won?

[Animavore]

Online gaming certainly does. Winning.

And what have you won?

A sense of self-satisfaction.

[Gawdzilla Sama]

Online gaming certainly does. Winning.

And what have you won?

A sense of self-satisfaction.

Acceptable. I guess.

[GeneticJen]

Well Quake was arguably "fun". If fun is pointless... well that's a bit sad. But they were held back by the technology. All they could do was give us a fun experience held together with a pointless story, set in a pointless location, with pointless characters etc. These days, the technology is so good that very complex stories can be told through video games, but in a way that no movie can do due to the level of interaction. Some can truly be described as art, others can be used to send political messages, and still (if the game is actually any good), it's fun. If something is fun, I wouldn't say it is pointless. The point of using the product is... to have fun. Is there something that makes video gaming pointless while films and music aren't... or do you feel that films and music are also pointless?

I think you'd really need to play a modern equivalent of Quake and make a comparison. You just ran around shooting things. That simply isn't good enough anymore.

[Gawdzilla Sama]

Well Quake was arguably "fun". If fun is pointless... well that's a bit sad. But they were held back by the technology. All they could do was give us a fun experience held together with a pointless story, set in a pointless location, with pointless characters etc. These days, the technology is so good that very complex stories can be told through video games, but in a way that no movie can do due to the level of interaction. Some can truly be described as art, others can be used to send political messages, and still (if the game is actually any good), it's fun. If something is fun, I wouldn't say it is pointless. The point of using the product is... to have fun. Is there something that makes video gaming pointless while films and music aren't... or do you feel that films and music are also pointless?

I think you'd really need to play a modern equivalent of Quake and make a comparison. You just ran around shooting things. That simply isn't good enough anymore.

And in the end, you have what you started with. Solitaire writ large.

[Animavore]

You could argue that sport is pointless (at the amateur level) for the same reasons. Some people really do do it just for fun and something to do.
And actually some people do play video games at a professional level and make a nice few quid for themselves. I saw a program recently with a young lad of about 20 who had already made over a quarter of a million.

[GeneticJen]

You can tell complex stories using solitaire? Have millions of people simultaneously interacting with each other in real time, relying on reaction times, tactics, teamwork, communication and leadership using solitaire? Can you make solitaire a thought-provoking experience, handling controversial topics and causing people to think in ways they wouldn't usually compared to experiencing the same stories in films?

[Gawdzilla Sama]

You could argue that sport is pointless (at the amateur level) for the same reasons. Some people really do do it just for fun and something to do.
And actually some people do play video games at a professional level and make a nice few quid for themselves. I saw a program recently with a young lad of about 20 who had already made over a quarter of a million.

Sport is exercise on a competitive level, so that's not bad.

There are probably a few million kids in gyms in the US right now, practicing basketball and planning what they'll do when they're in the NBA. Maybe one in a million will make it.

[Gawdzilla Sama]

You can tell complex stories using solitaire? Have millions of people simultaneously interacting with each other in real time, relying on reaction times, tactics, teamwork, communication and leadership using solitaire?

Note the "writ large". It was in the post.

[The Curious Squid]

Zilla, you're full of shit. We're all atheists here and as such we know that there is no "point" to anything, ever, other than what we chose to give meaning to. Peter and Ani have given you valid reasons for why gaming is just as important to modern culture as any book, film, sonnet or painting so give up the ruse and stop winding us up

[Gawdzilla Sama]

Zilla, you're full of shit. We're all atheists here and as such we know that there is no "point" to anything, ever, other than what we chose to give meaning to. Peter and Ani have given you valid reasons for why gaming is just as important to modern culture as any book, film, sonnet or painting so give up the ruse and stop winding us up

Hey, we were talking about playing games weren't we?

[The Curious Squid]

Yes we were

[Gawdzilla Sama]

Yes we were

You've been schooled.

[GeneticJen]

What do you call your classes?
Mine are:

Wife Beater
Fag Enabler
Ton of Bricks
Pig Fucker
Father O'Riorden

Forgot to ask, do the names actually relate to the classes?



I've got free-for-alls down to 3 minutes now.

[Animavore]

What do you call your classes?
Mine are:

Wife Beater
Fag Enabler
Ton of Bricks
Pig Fucker
Father O'Riorden

Forgot to ask, do the names actually relate to the classes?



I've got free-for-alls down to 3 minutes now.

Off course they do. They all kick ass and make bitches, widows, and sexually repressed, socially inadequate victims out of the weak.