RDF is pretty much a firing range, where fundies arrive with targets pinned to their foreheads (with loooong nails) and the denizens pick them off one by one. Apparently lots of people like it, it never seems to end.Costas Varthis wrote:Well, if someone finds it amusing and purposeful - then sure, why not? I just don't think I'll manage to influence anyone so I leave people to their own beliefs and little fantasies. They're most likely to discard anything outside their comfort area, anything they don't find appealing, useful or comforting anyway.
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QFT. This is practically signature material right thereGawdzilla wrote:RDF is pretty much a firing range, where fundies arrive with targets pinned to their foreheads (with loooong nails) and the denizens pick them off one by one. Apparently lots of people like it, it never seems to end.Costas Varthis wrote:Well, if someone finds it amusing and purposeful - then sure, why not? I just don't think I'll manage to influence anyone so I leave people to their own beliefs and little fantasies. They're most likely to discard anything outside their comfort area, anything they don't find appealing, useful or comforting anyway.
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Someone else on the debate I was having posted this against that creationist...
If we're going to talk probability, here's a fun fact: the probability that a planet would have a radius of 71492kms is extremely low. The same planet with a mass of 1.899 E+27 kgs would have an even lower probability of existing. That the same planet would be present at a distance of 5.45 AU from its star would be extremely low, probably far lesser than 1/7 billion. Therefore, believing in the existence of Jupiter is faith.
If we're going to talk probability, here's a fun fact: the probability that a planet would have a radius of 71492kms is extremely low. The same planet with a mass of 1.899 E+27 kgs would have an even lower probability of existing. That the same planet would be present at a distance of 5.45 AU from its star would be extremely low, probably far lesser than 1/7 billion. Therefore, believing in the existence of Jupiter is faith.
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Bad move. The improbability of all that and the fact that Jupiter is there is "proof of gawd".
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But Jupiter is a god, yes?born-again-atheist wrote:Bad move. The improbability of all that and the fact that Jupiter is there is "proof of gawd".
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ERROR MESSAGE: Given an infinite universe and an infinite expanse of time, such specifications become inevitable, not improbable.GenesForLife wrote:Someone else on the debate I was having posted this against that creationist...
If we're going to talk probability, here's a fun fact: the probability that a planet would have a radius of 71492kms is extremely low. The same planet with a mass of 1.899 E+27 kgs would have an even lower probability of existing. That the same planet would be present at a distance of 5.45 AU from its star would be extremely low, probably far lesser than 1/7 billion. Therefore, believing in the existence of Jupiter is faith.
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