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Atheist numbers...

Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Sun Oct 18, 2009 12:27 am

For every Buddhist, there are 2 atheists.
For every Sikh, there are 35 atheists.
For every Jew, there are 41 atheists.
For every Mormon, there are 58 atheists.

Source: Zuckerman, P. 2007. "Atheism: Contemporary Numbers and Patterns." In M. Martin (Ed.), The Cambridge Companion to Atheism. Cambridge: Cambridge University Press.
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Re: Atheist numbers...

Post by Pappa » Tue Oct 20, 2009 11:01 am

Gawdzilla wrote:For every Buddhist, there are 2 atheists.
For every Sikh, there are 35 atheists.
For every Jew, there are 41 atheists.
For every Mormon, there are 58 atheists.

Source: Zuckerman, P. 2007. "Atheism: Contemporary Numbers and Patterns." In M. Martin (Ed.), The Cambridge Companion to Atheism. Cambridge: Cambridge University Press.
Does it have figures for Christians and Muslims too?
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Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Tue Oct 20, 2009 11:02 am

Pappa wrote:
Gawdzilla wrote:For every Buddhist, there are 2 atheists.
For every Sikh, there are 35 atheists.
For every Jew, there are 41 atheists.
For every Mormon, there are 58 atheists.

Source: Zuckerman, P. 2007. "Atheism: Contemporary Numbers and Patterns." In M. Martin (Ed.), The Cambridge Companion to Atheism. Cambridge: Cambridge University Press.
Does it have figures for Christians and Muslims too?
I haven't found the source book yet, that info was from the latest Skeptic issue. :dono:
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Post by Trolldor » Tue Oct 20, 2009 11:05 am

I am skeptical about those numbers. Need more sauces.
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Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Tue Oct 20, 2009 11:06 am

born-again-atheist wrote:I am skeptical about those numbers. Need more sauces.
Skeptical is good. :tup: I will track down a copy of the book and put a copy of the source where it can be found.
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Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Tue Oct 20, 2009 1:02 pm

Okay, Washington University at St. Louis, WUSTL, has a copy of the source. I have some free time tomorrow. :tup:
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Post by Xamonas Chegwé » Tue Oct 20, 2009 3:03 pm

Religion Adherents
Christianity --- 2.1 billion
Islam --- 1.5 billion
Secularism/irreligious/agnostic/atheism --- 1.1 billion
Hinduism --- 900 million
Chinese traditional religion --- 394 million
Buddhism --- 376 million
Primal-indigenous --- 300 million
African traditional/diasporic --- 100 million
Sikhism --- 23 million
Juche --- 19 million
Spiritism --- 15 million
Judaism --- 14 million
Bahá'í Faith --- 7 million
Jainism --- 4.2 million
Shinto --- 4 million
Cao Dai --- 4 million
Zoroastrianism --- 2.6 million
Tenrikyo --- 2 million
Neo-Paganism --- 1 million
Unitarian Universalism --- 800,000
Rastafari Movement --- 600,000
Scientology --- 500,000

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Post by Thinking Aloud » Tue Oct 20, 2009 4:09 pm

That's more than I'd have thought for atheists/agnostics/etc.

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Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Tue Oct 20, 2009 4:25 pm

Xamonas Chegwé wrote:Secularism/irreligious/agnostic/atheism --- 1.1 billion
That's my new line. "There are 1 billion rational humans on this planet right now. Care to join them?"
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Post by Xamonas Chegwé » Tue Oct 20, 2009 4:59 pm

Thinking Aloud wrote:That's more than I'd have thought for atheists/agnostics/etc.
They probably count a lot of the Chinese in that number - and all of the north Koreans. Big pinch of salt required in any of those lists.
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Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Mon Nov 09, 2009 1:35 pm

Gawdzilla wrote:Okay, Washington University at St. Louis, WUSTL, has a copy of the source. I have some free time tomorrow. :tup:
Finally. http://rationalia.com/gawdzilla/AtheistNumbers.pdf
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Post by floppit » Mon Nov 09, 2009 1:47 pm

No-one asked me!! There's at least one atheist missing from the list!

But other than that, what worries me more is that the Skeptic mag left off the 2 biggest faiths (according to XC's figures). I'm thinking the figures reproduced were selected on the basis that they showed more atheists than believers of a given religion - I don't like that. Cherry picking from numbers might be as popular as having a poo but sod it, I lose interest when it's so blatant and unnecessary. It's not a good way to compare either, people who believe are subdivided, atheists are not - mind you at this rate atheists will be too!
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Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Mon Nov 09, 2009 2:10 pm

floppit wrote:No-one asked me!! There's at least one atheist missing from the list!

But other than that, what worries me more is that the Skeptic mag left off the 2 biggest faiths (according to XC's figures). I'm thinking the figures reproduced were selected on the basis that they showed more atheists than believers of a given religion - I don't like that. Cherry picking from numbers might be as popular as having a poo but sod it, I lose interest when it's so blatant and unnecessary. It's not a good way to compare either, people who believe are subdivided, atheists are not - mind you at this rate atheists will be too!
Skeptic got it's number from that article. It's worth a read, IMHO.
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Post by The Dawktor » Tue Nov 10, 2009 12:46 pm

Just goes to show 5 Billion people CAN be wrong! :roll:
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Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Tue Nov 10, 2009 12:47 pm

The Dawktor wrote:Just goes to show 5 Billion people CAN be wrong! :roll:
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