The four horsemen... Conquest???

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The four horsemen... Conquest???

Post by Sisifo » Fri Oct 16, 2009 12:50 pm

All my life thinking that the four horsemen were disease, death, famine and war,and now I discover in the wiki in all languages http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Four_Horse ... Apocalypse, that Disease is "Conquest"...
Since when??
Has the interpretation changed or have I always been wrong? Did you know that horseman as Disease/Plague/Pestilence (as I did), or you always knew it as "Conquest"?? I'm puzzled...

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Re: The four horsemen... Conquest???

Post by Pappa » Fri Oct 16, 2009 1:32 pm

Sisifo wrote:All my life thinking that the four horsemen were disease, death, famine and war,and now I discover in the wiki in all languages http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Four_Horse ... Apocalypse, that Disease is "Conquest"...
Since when??
Has the interpretation changed or have I always been wrong? Did you know that horseman as Disease/Plague/Pestilence (as I did), or you always knew it as "Conquest"?? I'm puzzled...
I thought it was Pestilence too. Surely Conquest is the same as War???
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Re: The four horsemen... Conquest???

Post by Sisifo » Fri Oct 16, 2009 1:58 pm

Pappa wrote:
Sisifo wrote:All my life thinking that the four horsemen were disease, death, famine and war,and now I discover in the wiki in all languages http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Four_Horse ... Apocalypse, that Disease is "Conquest"...
Since when??
Has the interpretation changed or have I always been wrong? Did you know that horseman as Disease/Plague/Pestilence (as I did), or you always knew it as "Conquest"?? I'm puzzled...
I thought it was Pestilence too. Surely Conquest is the same as War???
No, it's not... This stuff is fascinating. Seems like Conquest is the "good horseman"... This is weird!

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Post by Pappa » Fri Oct 16, 2009 2:06 pm

Sisifo wrote:
Pappa wrote:
Sisifo wrote:All my life thinking that the four horsemen were disease, death, famine and war,and now I discover in the wiki in all languages http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Four_Horse ... Apocalypse, that Disease is "Conquest"...
Since when??
Has the interpretation changed or have I always been wrong? Did you know that horseman as Disease/Plague/Pestilence (as I did), or you always knew it as "Conquest"?? I'm puzzled...
I thought it was Pestilence too. Surely Conquest is the same as War???
No, it's not... This stuff is fascinating. Seems like Conquest is the "good horseman"... This is weird!
I just noticed the bit.... "To go forth in conquest, and to conquer. (Can be interpreted as spreading the word of God.)". That's how it would differ from War.
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Re: The four horsemen... Conquest???

Post by charlou » Sun Oct 18, 2009 3:13 am

If all four horsemen are elements of an apocolypse, surely 'disease' is the originally intended horseman?
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Post by Don't Panic » Sun Oct 18, 2009 2:11 pm

Charlou wrote:If all four horsemen are elements of an apocolypse, surely 'disease' is the originally intended horseman?
Disease is simply a product of war and famine, all leading to death.
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Post by Horwood Beer-Master » Mon Oct 19, 2009 3:02 am

Pestilence left the horsemen due to creative differences, so they brought in Conquest to take his place. :tea:
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Post by Xamonas Chegwé » Mon Oct 19, 2009 3:04 am

Horwood Beer-Master wrote:Pestilence left the horsemen due to creative differences, so they brought in Conquest to take his place. :tea:
Are you sure he didn't ring in sick? :hehe:
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Re: The four horsemen... Conquest???

Post by Sisifo » Mon Oct 19, 2009 3:34 am

Horwood Beer-Master wrote:Pestilence left the horsemen due to creative differences, so they brought in Conquest to take his place. :tea:
Well, in "Good Omens", Pestilence retired in 1936, saying something about "Peniciline", and his position was taken by Pollution...

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Re: The four horsemen... Conquest???

Post by Don't Panic » Mon Oct 19, 2009 6:11 pm

Sisifo wrote:
Horwood Beer-Master wrote:Pestilence left the horsemen due to creative differences, so they brought in Conquest to take his place. :tea:
Well, in "Good Omens", Pestilence retired in 1936, saying something about "Peniciline", and his position was taken by Pollution...
Yep, and according to Thief of Time, Kaos was the 5th horseman and he's the one who left over creative differences.

Pratchett seems to have a slight horseman fixation.
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