You will never win against a creationist.

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You will never win against a creationist.

Post by Deep Sea Isopod » Sun Oct 04, 2009 7:48 pm

I have just tried to explain to a creationist about Richard Lenski's experiment with E.Coli over a 20 year period (Idea taken From RD's book The Greatest show on Earth)
I provided google links to various reports and even to Richard Lenski's website at Michigan State University

The reply i got was....."The bacteria is still bacteria when will it become your kissing cousin fool."



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Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Sun Oct 04, 2009 8:09 pm

You can't change a creationist's mind, they don't have one. You should speak to the fence-sitters, give them the information to make up their minds. Use the creotard as chalk board to write your info on.
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Post by Deep Sea Isopod » Sun Oct 04, 2009 8:16 pm

Gawdzilla wrote:You can't change a creationist's mind, they don't have one. You should speak to the fence-sitters, give them the information to make up their minds. Use the creotard as chalk board to write your info on.

I know, but they make I larf. :hehe:
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Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Sun Oct 04, 2009 8:18 pm

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Gawdzilla wrote:You can't change a creationist's mind, they don't have one. You should speak to the fence-sitters, give them the information to make up their minds. Use the creotard as chalk board to write your info on.

I know, but they make I larf. :hehe:
That's important too. :tup:
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Post by Xamonas Chegwé » Sun Oct 04, 2009 8:38 pm

Gawdzilla wrote:You can't change a creationist's mind, they don't have one. You should speak to the fence-sitters, give them the information to make up their minds. Use the creotard as chalk board to write your info on.
Didn't Ayaan use to be a creationist? Just saying...
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Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Sun Oct 04, 2009 8:46 pm

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Gawdzilla wrote:You can't change a creationist's mind, they don't have one. You should speak to the fence-sitters, give them the information to make up their minds. Use the creotard as chalk board to write your info on.
Didn't Ayaan use to be a creationist? Just saying...
They're minds won't be changed as long as they're creationists. Ask Ayaan. :tup:
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Gawdzilla wrote:You can't change a creationist's mind, they don't have one. You should speak to the fence-sitters, give them the information to make up their minds. Use the creotard as chalk board to write your info on.
Didn't Ayaan use to be a creationist? Just saying...
They're minds won't be changed as long as they're creationists. Ask Ayaan. :tup:
Logic fail! (Not to mention grammar fail - 'they're'!!!)

Creationists DO cease to be creationists and when that happens, something or someone changes their minds. It is never a waste of time trying to sow a seed of doubt. Yours might not be the last straw but it will be one of the straws.
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Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Sun Oct 04, 2009 8:51 pm

Xamonas Chegwé wrote:
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Gawdzilla wrote:You can't change a creationist's mind, they don't have one. You should speak to the fence-sitters, give them the information to make up their minds. Use the creotard as chalk board to write your info on.
Didn't Ayaan use to be a creationist? Just saying...
They're minds won't be changed as long as they're creationists. Ask Ayaan. :tup:
Logic fail! (Not to mention grammar fail - 'they're'!!!)

Creationists DO cease to be creationists and when that happens, something or someone changes their minds. It is never a waste of time trying to sow a seed of doubt. Yours might not be the last straw but it will be one of the straws.
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Post by The Dawktor » Mon Oct 05, 2009 9:44 am

There's a huge amount of embarrassed humble pie eating required to make the jump from cretionism towards cold scientific reality- they usually have an enormous amount psychologically invested in maintaining the creation-position for any length of time- it's a huge leap to make. :eddy:
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Post by Xamonas Chegwé » Mon Oct 05, 2009 10:42 am

The Dawktor wrote:There's a huge amount of embarrassed humble pie eating required to make the jump from cretionism towards cold scientific reality- they usually have an enormous amount psychologically invested in maintaining the creation-position for any length of time- it's a huge leap to make. :eddy:
True. And they are never going to come round to a scientific, logical way of thinking after a brief conversation with an atheist. I doubt that Dawkins himself would achieve that in 99%+ of cases. But those kinds of conversations and arguments ARE necessary because creotards DO snap out of it every now and then and it is up to us to question their convictions in the way that they are not prepared to in the hope that some of those awkward questions stick. It might be fruitless in the majority of cases but every day there are former fundamentalists, of all religious persuasions, that finally come to realise just what a crock of shit they have bought into for years. We can't stop trying to change people's attitudes simply because most of them won't change.

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Re: You will never win against a creationist.

Post by Feck » Mon Oct 05, 2009 11:03 am

The JWs sent a child round to post pamphlets again ........poor little thing was only about waist high she bravely walked into the block holding the pamphlets out in front of her like a virgin holding a crucifix in a bad horror movie .Aw shame i thought Even i didn't have evil in me to open the door and terrify the poor brave little lamb .....Next door however had not seen the child and the angry roar that echoed down the stairs upon the arrival of such unwelcome post was enough to send the child out at warp speed .No doubt in the waiting arms of some "parent " hiding around the corner COWARDS .
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Re: You will never win against a creationist.

Post by Deep Sea Isopod » Thu Oct 08, 2009 5:30 pm

Feck wrote:The JWs sent a child round to post pamphlets again ........poor little thing was only about waist high she bravely walked into the block holding the pamphlets out in front of her like a virgin holding a crucifix in a bad horror movie .Aw shame i thought Even i didn't have evil in me to open the door and terrify the poor brave little lamb .....Next door however had not seen the child and the angry roar that echoed down the stairs upon the arrival of such unwelcome post was enough to send the child out at warp speed .No doubt in the waiting arms of some "parent " hiding around the corner COWARDS .


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Feck wrote:The JWs sent a child round to post pamphlets again ........poor little thing was only about waist high she bravely walked into the block holding the pamphlets out in front of her like a virgin holding a crucifix in a bad horror movie .Aw shame i thought Even i didn't have evil in me to open the door and terrify the poor brave little lamb .....Next door however had not seen the child and the angry roar that echoed down the stairs upon the arrival of such unwelcome post was enough to send the child out at warp speed .No doubt in the waiting arms of some "parent " hiding around the corner COWARDS .
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Post by Animavore » Thu Oct 08, 2009 11:49 pm

I'm sure I could fairly easily win a creationist over...

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Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Thu Oct 08, 2009 11:52 pm

Animavore wrote:I'm sure I could fairly easily win a creationist over...

...with an uppercut to the jaw.
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