We are "Nones"?

[maiforpeace]

I would prefer to be called something other than a "none". What could we be? But, the news is quite good, the US is on it's way...

September 25, 2009
One in 5 Americans may be secular by 2030

by Angela Abbamonte
Religion News Service

The number of American adults who do not identify with a particular religion is growing and may comprise more than 20 percent of the population in two decades, according to a new study.

Conducted by researchers at Trinity College, the study, entitled "American Nones: The Profile of the No Religion Population," showed that people who profess no religion, or "Nones," are similar to the general public in marital status, education, racial and ethnic makeup and income.

According to the study, it is possible that one in five Americans will put themselves in the "None" category by 2030.

"We are here. We are like everybody else. We are part of the community." said Jesse Galef, communications associate at the Secular Coalition for America.

Galef hopes that this trend will dispel stereotypes that Nones have no morals because of their lack of religion and help them gain a political voice.

The study indicated that a large percentage of Nones also decline to identify with a political party. More than 40 percent call themselves independents; 34 percent say they're Democrats; and 13 percent Republican.

"If the Republican Party wants these votes back, they can't be dominated by the religious right," said Galef.

Barry Kosmin, head researcher for the study, said that the spread of the Nones is a national and historical phenomenon. He cited examples from the Founding Fathers, such as Thomas Jefferson's version of the Bible, in which he cut out reference to Jesus' divinity.

The most notable difference between Nones and the religious population is the gender gap. Only 12 percent of American women are Nones while 19 percent of American men claim no religion. According to the study, women who grew up in non-religious homes are less likely to stay non-religious. Women are also less likely to switch out of religion.

"Why, now, I have no clue," said Kosmin. "(The study) raises as many questions as answers." Most Nones would not consider themselves atheists. More than 50 percent believe in either a higher being or a personal God, while only 7 percent are self-proclaimed atheists. One in three say they "definitely" believe that humans developed from earlier species of animals.

Of "converted" Nones, 35 percent identified as Catholics until the age of twelve. William D'Antonio of Catholic University says this finding accords with his research, and that other studies have shown that Catholics often leave the church because they view it as overly dogmatic.

Kerry Robinson, executive director of the National Leadership Roundtable on Church Management (NLRCM), has been working to keep Catholics involved in the church by asking them to give of their talents in service.

"When you invite someone to give what they do best," said Robinson, "they become more invested in the church."

NLRCM is partnering with St. Thomas More Catholic Chapel and Center at Yale University to bring this concept to students who are excited about being a part of the Catholic Church. They are planning a pilot program that will span several campuses, bringing students together to be trained for church leadership after graduation.

Most of these students will be graduating with degrees in subjects like accounting and communication. This program hopes to "bring them and their service to the church and its temporal needs."

While this and other initiatives to keep people involved in religion develop, Nones are still growing in number and continue to look more like the general population.

In the conclusion of the Trinity study, researchers say Nones are the "invisible minority" in the U.S. "because their social characteristics are very similar to the majority." The shift to secularism in the 1990s largely happened "under the radar," the researchers said.

http://pewforum.org/news/display.php?NewsID=18769

[Drewish]

Bah that seems to cast such a wide net for the term 'secular' that it barely even means anything.

[Xamonas Chegwé]

They are not 'Nones', they are atheists. That is the term for somebody that does not believe in a god or follow a religion. Atheist. That the religions of the world have united in misdefining it for centuries does not alter the fact that it does not mean satanist, baby-eater, degenerate, anti-religionist, communist, anarchist, nihilist or Welsh - it simply means not having a god, nor religion. (And just because some of us like a slice of newborn on our toast, that is no reason to tar all atheists with the same delicious brush.

[maiforpeace]

They are not 'Nones', they are atheists. That is the term for somebody that does not believe in a god or follow a religion. Atheist. That the religions of the world have united in misdefining it for centuries does not alter the fact that it does not mean satanist, baby-eater, degenerate, anti-religionist, communist, anarchist, nihilist or Welsh - it simply means not having a god, nor religion. (And just because some of us like a slice of newborn on our toast, that is no reason to tar all atheists with the same delicious brush.

I don't know anything about the history of the word Atheist, and whether religious people have helped to misdefine it. I understand Atheist to mean someone who doesn't believe in any deities. However, in many cases I would not call someone who doesn't follow a religion an Atheist.

When I said I hoped for a better name than the name "none" I meant more of a collective, umbrella name for everyone who falls in this category of non-believers. Otherwise it seems to be either "none" or a long litany of terms to include Atheists, Agnostics, Brights, Freethinkers, Humanists, Ethical Culture, Secular Jews ya dee ya dee yada... the list is long. Maybe an easy to remember acronym, like LGBT's, I dunno.

[Xamonas Chegwé]

They are not 'Nones', they are atheists. That is the term for somebody that does not believe in a god or follow a religion. Atheist. That the religions of the world have united in misdefining it for centuries does not alter the fact that it does not mean satanist, baby-eater, degenerate, anti-religionist, communist, anarchist, nihilist or Welsh - it simply means not having a god, nor religion. (And just because some of us like a slice of newborn on our toast, that is no reason to tar all atheists with the same delicious brush.

I don't know anything about the history of the word Atheist, and whether religious people have helped to misdefine it. I understand Atheist to mean someone who doesn't believe in any deities. However, in many cases I would not call someone who doesn't follow a religion an Atheist.

When I said I hoped for a better name than the name "none" I meant more of a collective, umbrella name for everyone who falls in this category of non-believers. Otherwise it seems to be either "none" or a long litany of terms to include Atheists, Agnostics, Brights, Freethinkers, Humanists, Ethical Culture, Secular Jews ya dee ya dee yada... the list is long. Maybe an easy to remember acronym, like LGBT's, I dunno.

LGBT? Let's Get Bonged Together?

[Thinking Aloud]

"Sensible."

By 2030, 20% of the U.S. population will be Sensible.

[Feck]

"Sensible."

By 2030, 20% of the U.S. population will be Sensible.

Seems a bit arrogant to refer to yourself as bright and if I ever referred to myself as sensible then people would laugh ........a lot ........and then some more......

[Thinking Aloud]

"Sensible."

By 2030, 20% of the U.S. population will be Sensible.

Seems a bit arrogant to refer to yourself as bright and if I ever referred to myself as sensible then people would laugh ........a lot ........and then some more......

Yeah, I don't like "bright" either. And sensible was a little tongue in cheek...!

[The Dawktor]

"Sensible."

By 2030, 20% of the U.S. population will be Sensible.

Seems a bit arrogant to refer to yourself as bright and if I ever referred to myself as sensible then people would laugh ........a lot ........and then some more......

Yeah, I don't like "bright" either. And sensible was a little tongue in cheek...!

Couldn't we just split the difference and call the believers "Dims"???

[Thinking Aloud]

"Sensible."

By 2030, 20% of the U.S. population will be Sensible.

Seems a bit arrogant to refer to yourself as bright and if I ever referred to myself as sensible then people would laugh ........a lot ........and then some more......

Yeah, I don't like "bright" either. And sensible was a little tongue in cheek...!

Couldn't we just split the difference and call the believers "Dims"???

Oh YES! By 2030 only 80% of the U.S. population will still be Dim.

[Trolldor]

None means someone who doesn't identify with a religion, it does not make them them atheist.
Also, it is very much possible to be heavily religious and still secular, provided you allow the state and the people to run their lives without the interference of your religion.

[FBM]

None means someone who doesn't identify with a religion, it does not make them them atheist.
Also, it is very much possible to be heavily religious and still secular, provided you allow the state and the people to run their lives without the interference of your religion.

Yes, Buddhism is an atheist religion. The only one, as far as I know.