Machine Learning Systems are doing some amazing things, in some specialised or specific contexts. They're also doing some dreadful things. Of course, those things were amazing or dreadful before researchers started applying MLS to them.Sean Hayden wrote: ↑Sun Dec 07, 2025 5:32 amI trust the experts that these ChatGPT things aren’t all that intelligent. I just imagine there are probably a lot of smaller problems ai will solve, and at least some of them will be significantly profitable and transformative.
On the issue of real intelligence I still haven’t read anything more interesting on the subject (admittedly I don’t spend a lot of time on it) than Dennett’s essay on the frame problem: https://folk.idi.ntnu.no/gamback/teachi ... nett84.pdf Someone, or many someones have claimed to have solved it…![]()
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anyway, AI is a fricking bubble... there's a Nobel prize out there wailing that the tech we use (I'm not sure whether he means the chips or the Large Language Model based programming) is totally the wrong one.
To boot, the CEO of IBM has demonstrated that the economic model just doesn't work, the investments have been so massive there's just no way to make the thing profitable, ever.
there's also been many people dissing the LLM type of 'intelligence', because it will never be really intelligent, even if it can fool laypeople.
To boot, the CEO of IBM has demonstrated that the economic model just doesn't work, the investments have been so massive there's just no way to make the thing profitable, ever.
there's also been many people dissing the LLM type of 'intelligence', because it will never be really intelligent, even if it can fool laypeople.
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Being profitable is a side issue. The societal impact will be verra large 
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It may yet be profitable given the immense boost in productivity it will drive.
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You'll all change your tune when AI solves global warming, explains abiogenesis, and comes up with a grand unified theory.
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It gives next weeks lottery ticket numbers now, although there is a two week wait to access them
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But will it ever make the perfect Baked Alaska?pErvinalia wrote: ↑Mon Dec 08, 2025 7:17 amYou'll all change your tune when AI solves global warming, explains abiogenesis, and comes up with a grand unified theory.
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The development and implementation is wholly dependent on returns to investors - unless you're advocating that govts should take AI into public ownership?
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Mac's a communist at heart? 
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https://apnews.com/article/walk-my-walk ... 0e2998cfe2LOS ANGELES (AP) — When an AI-generated country song called “Walk My Walk” hit No. 1 on Billboard’s country digital song sales chart this month, it was credited to a fictional artist named Breaking Rust — a white, digitally generated avatar that didn’t exist two months ago.
But the song’s vocal phrasing, melodic shape and stylistic DNA came from someone who does exist: Grammy-nominated country artist Blanco Brown, a Black music artist who has worked with Britney Spears, Childish Gambino and Rihanna.
And he had no idea.
“I didn’t even know about the song until people hit me up about it,” said Brown, whose 2019 country rap hit “The Git Up” helped usher in a new, hybrid era of country crossover. He didn’t learn about the chart-topping AI track until his phone was flooded with messages from friends.
This is the kind of thing that might make you wonder if you’re already dead, or waking up in the matrix. It’s too weird to be real…
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