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Post by JimC » Wed May 28, 2025 9:07 pm

There are certainly elements within the human condition which reflect our evolutionary history. For me, they do not manifest as absolutes, but rather as tendencies, often linked to emotional states. These include aggressive behaviour, especially to out groups, but also many types of co-operative behaviour. The dark side of our nature is always potentially there, but can be modified by culture and reason.
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Post by Brian Peacock » Wed May 28, 2025 9:37 pm

And our emotional states are linked to our environment, and to our antecedent experiences. We don't just start raging spontaneously do we? We don't find ourselves pondering which salad dressing to buy at the supermarket and then suddenly find ourselves overwhelmed by the urge to "KILL THEM!! KILL THEM ALL!!!!". We are not in a perpetual war of all against all.
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Re: Palestine v Israel.

Post by rainbow » Mon Jun 09, 2025 8:38 pm

"Spain summons Israeli envoy over interception of Gaza-bound activist boat
By Lazar Berman


Spain summons Israel’s chargé d’affaires in Madrid, Dan Poraz, over the interception of the Madleen ship overnight as it made its way toward Gaza.

The reprimand will take place in the early afternoon, says an Israeli official." https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_ ... vist-boat/
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Post by Brian Peacock » Thu Jun 12, 2025 5:58 am

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Post by pErvinalia » Thu Jun 12, 2025 7:41 am

Nothing shocks me anymore. They are straight up evil.
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Post by Svartalf » Thu Jun 12, 2025 9:05 am

pErvinalia wrote:
Thu Jun 12, 2025 7:41 am
Nothing shocks me anymore. They are straight up evil.
well, who's surprised when their own history/holy book reports their committing genocides on massive scale, on direct orders from their god?
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Post by pErvinalia » Fri Jun 13, 2025 2:33 am

Getting hard to keep up with who Israel is bombing. Iran getting bombed now.
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Post by Brian Peacock » Fri Jun 13, 2025 9:00 am

In the UK Israel is beginning to not put a spokesperson up for news orgs and journalists it decides are disrespectful &/or antisemitic.

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Post by rainbow » Fri Jun 13, 2025 1:05 pm

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Re: Palestine v Israel.

Post by Brian Peacock » Sat Jun 14, 2025 9:36 am

Sure, the flotilla was a publicity stunt - just like Israel's humanitarian food programme - but at least Greta's lot weren't going to lure people to a remote location and strafe them from the air. The point of a publicity stunt is to publicise something. It's so much easier to assume that a 22 year old who's been publicly living their values since they were 14 is only in it for their own ego than address the fact that the vast majority of the Western media and political establishment continues to give Israel narrative and diplomatic cover while starving Gaza to death - particularly if you're in the media game for you're own ego, eh Piers?
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Post by Sean Hayden » Sat Jun 14, 2025 5:30 pm

Yeah, his take here is weak. The fact he’s unwilling to let go of the “clever” angle given the situation tells you everything you need to know.
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Re: Palestine v Israel.

Post by JimC » Sat Jun 14, 2025 9:01 pm

Anyway, motives can be and usually are mixed, humans being what they are. If there was some ego stuff mixed in with Greta's obvious humanitarian commitment, big deal...
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