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Re: The Thread of Democrats

Post by Sean Hayden » Sun Apr 27, 2025 11:37 am

The lesson is probably to just stop asking Americans what they think. They don’t even know themselves.
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Post by JimC » Sun Apr 27, 2025 7:57 pm

It seems to me that Trump and his team are, at least in part, getting away with shitty stuff because of the lack of a trusted and credible political opposition...
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Re: The Thread of Democrats

Post by Tero » Sun Apr 27, 2025 10:08 pm

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It seems to me that Trump and his team are, at least in part, getting away with shitty stuff because of the lack of a trusted and credible political opposition...
It's not quite like that here. Comparing the US to other places is useless. Many voters just vote for president. They have almost no knowledge of other politicians. The Democrats would not be heard.
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Post by pErvinalia » Sun Apr 27, 2025 10:24 pm

But who do they turn to for opposition in between elections? There's no opposition President.
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Re: The Thread of Democrats

Post by Svartalf » Sun Apr 27, 2025 11:08 pm

well, even if the dems are out of touch, I don't think they are so far into their personal bubble as to neglect every bit of law and custom that doesn't exactly suit them as the frump does.
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Re: The Thread of Democrats

Post by JimC » Mon Apr 28, 2025 2:51 am

pErvinalia wrote:
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But who do they turn to for opposition in between elections? There's no opposition President.
At least we have a clear-cut "Leader of the Opposition". I'm hoping out current opposition leader, Dutton, is sufficiently on the nose with enough people to lose in the upcoming election...
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Post by pErvinalia » Mon Apr 28, 2025 3:50 am

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Post by Tero » Mon Apr 28, 2025 9:40 am

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The reason you think Biden was a sh_tty president was because you weren’t paying very close attention. The reason you weren’t paying very close attention is because Biden was a great president.
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This is so fucking true. As soon as he took office it was like I could breathe again and I felt safe. I barely paid attention to the news because I was so burned out and stressed from Trump.
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We wanted strong confident politicians. That didn't mean we wanted them to ignore the encroaching rise of fascism as if it was politics as usual
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And Democrats continue failing on messaging because they refused to brag about their accomplishments.
(that last one is not entirely true, there was plenty of message, but it was all too complicated, not like Trump's scaremongering)

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Re: The Thread of Democrats

Post by Brian Peacock » Mon Apr 28, 2025 9:54 am

pErvinalia wrote:Temu Trump.
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And there's plenty of those around at the moment.
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Re: The Thread of Democrats

Post by L'Emmerdeur » Tue Apr 29, 2025 4:25 am

In the House of Representatives, taking a page from one of the leading political lights of contemporary American politics, Representative Thanedar of Michigan introduced articles of impeachment against Trump. While the alleged high crimes & misdemeanors in one ('He's letting illegals cross the border.') don't come anywhere near the other ('He's usurped the constitutionally allotted powers of Congress, used the Department of Justice to carry out personal vendettas, unlawfully empowered federal agencies to violate constitutional rights, and generally has acted as a tyrant.') they're the same in one significant regard: Both amount to a faint noise in the background.

In the Senate, Minority Leader Schumer sent 'a strong letter' with 'eight very strong questions' to the president about his targeting of Harvard.

The Democratic Party's really showing its mettle.

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Post by Svartalf » Tue Apr 29, 2025 4:33 am

well, what are the odds of said impeachment actually working?
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Re: The Thread of Democrats

Post by Brian Peacock » Tue Apr 29, 2025 7:01 am

It's a ploy - seeding the ground before a possible mid-term backlash, while also giving Trump something to be even more heroic about! There's not a hope in hell it'll go anywhere or become anything - which is the primary point of purely performative partisan politics.

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Post by Tero » Tue Apr 29, 2025 10:10 am

Impeachments every time now.
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Hmm, she speaks quite well, but of course the staff wrote it. After that Biden was already accused of over reach and "power corrupts." Biden accused of arresting Jan 6th patriots. FBI itself was accused of the same thing Trump did to it.
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Re: The Thread of Democrats

Post by Tero » Tue Apr 29, 2025 10:58 am

Illinois governor (billionaire wants to be president?) focusing on 2026. Things must be done.
But, he said, “Immigration—with all its struggles and its complexities—is part of the secret sauce that makes America great, always. Immigrants strengthen our communities, enrich our neighborhoods, renew our passion for America’s greatness, enliven our music and our culture, enhance understanding of the world. The success of our economy depends upon immigrants. In fact, forty-six percent…of Fortune 500 companies were founded by immigrants or the children of immigrants.”
Trump’s attacks on immigrants, he said, are likely to make the U.S. economy fail.
Indeed, he suggested, making America fail is the point of the Trump administration's actions. “We have a Secretary of Education who hates teachers and schools,” he said. “We have a Secretary of Transportation who hates public transit. We have an Attorney General who hates the Constitution. We have a Secretary of State, the son of naturalized citizens—a family of refugees—on a crusade to expel our country of both.
“We have a head of the Department of Government Efficiency— an immigrant granted the privilege of living and working here, a man who has made hundreds of billions of dollars after the government rescued his business for him—who is looking to destroy the American middle class to fund tax cuts for himself. And we have a President who claims to love America but who hates our military so much that he calls them ‘losers’ and ‘suckers’ and who can’t be bothered to delay his golf game to greet the bodies of four fallen US soldiers. And we have a Grand Old Party, founded by one of our nation’s bravest Presidents, Abraham Lincoln—who today would be a Democrat, I might add—... so afraid of the felon and the fraud that they put in the White House that they would sooner watch him destroy our country than lift a hand to save it.”
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