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Re: The Thread of Democrats

Post by L'Emmerdeur » Wed Feb 05, 2025 6:39 pm

The Democratic Party doesn't appear to be growing a spine. In fact there are those who're going to join in the goosestepping.

'Progressives Should Reject the DOGE Scam'
Asserting the premise that the national deficit and debt was a crisis in the making — and garnering media buy-in of the premise — was always aimed at justifying austerity measures that privatize government services. Wall Street can then raid them, reduce labor power by pushing the poor into further precarity (guaranteeing more compliant low wage labor); slash worker protections; weaken the NLRB [National Labor Relations Board] and OSHA [Occupational Safety and Health Administration], and public sector unions; and overall weaken the already puny power of the working class.

So when incoming President Donald Trump’s right-hand man, internet troll and world’s richest person Elon Musk launched the ​“Department of Government Efficiency” (DOGE), along with fellow rich ideologue Vivek Ramaswamy, it was a playbook that has been around for decades — pushing a far-right attack on the liberal state under the auspices of ​“cutting waste” but in new 4chan-speak. This was to be expected. Despite all the manosphere pandering and crying about ​“censorship,” Musk — like every other super rich person in modern American history — is ultimately just a Club for Growth Republican who wants weak workers, women and Black people who can’t sue for harassment, and low corporate taxes.

What was less expected and far more ominous is that a number of Democrats, both centrist and progressive, responded to this announcement by indulging the premise that DOGE is being carried out in good faith, that there exists some committee being formed to ​“cut waste,” and that Democrats can ​“work with it” to advance liberal goals. These high-profile Democrats are nodding along as the Xerox salesman runs them through the supposed ​“waste,” and now we’ve move onto debating the ​“solutions” to said waste, ostensibly under the banner of ​“common sense bipartisanship” or — even more credulous — to advance progressive causes.

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Republicans are open hypocrites. Trump actively campaigned as a venal philanderer and bullshit artist. We live in a post-irony world. Ideological battles need to be openly fought. Democrats, especially progressives, need to be banging home the message that DOGE is a cat food commission on steroids and talking about what the Trump administration has in store: the death of worker protections, poisoned food, crumbling schools, no more OSHA, and gutting Social Security and Medicare — not doing convoluted Hypocrisy Gotchas with the world’s most odious liars who are openly and proudly horrible people in any event.

But this isn’t the message that’s getting out. Even aside from the Democrats rolling with the false premise of DOGE, many figures in Congress and the media aren’t talking about it much at all. Why aren’t prominent Democrats yelling at the top of their lungs that this is a far-right effort to overturn popular pillars of the liberal state? Why isn’t it being branded as a stalking horse to throw grandma off social security? Where is the genuine resistance to Trump?

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Re: The Thread of Democrats

Post by Brian Peacock » Sun Feb 09, 2025 8:45 am

It's the centrist paradox writ large, but one trauma response to abuse is to placate and befriend one's abuser - and centrists have been sorely abused by the right, both near and far, for a long long time. Of course, placating one's abuser may win you respite in the moment, but it also cedes power and control to the abuser, who then expects and demands greater tokens of appeasement in order to mollify the self-justifying ire directed towards the victim of their abuse.

Basically, these Dems have succumbed to the political equivalent of the threat "Don't make me hit you with my ring hand again."
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Re: The Thread of Democrats

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California Dems kill GOP bid to exempt tips from taxes

Both former President Donald Trump and Vice President Kamala Harris have called for exempting tips from the federal income tax
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Re: The Thread of Democrats

Post by Cunt » Mon Mar 10, 2025 6:37 pm

L'Emmerdeur wrote:
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(He's a convicted felon, but that was a New York state court, not federal.)
The underlying 'felony', under the 34 counts? Was it a felony at all? Or was this some bookkeeping and a very good 'rule 34' fluffer?

It's really why Trump ended up winning the electoral college. Just look up 'rule 34 Trump' and you'll see.
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Re: The Thread of Democrats

Post by macdoc » Mon Mar 10, 2025 7:34 pm

Are you entirely sure he "won"??
Investigative journalist Greg Palast claims that Kamala Harris would have won the 2024 US presidential election without massive vote suppression by Republicans in many different States. He was interviewed by Spencer Graves.

Greg Palast
Palast is known for his investigative reports for The Guardian and his books including The Best Democracy Money Can Buy (2002);1 Democracy and Regulation (2003); Armed Madhouse (2006, 2007), Vultures Picnic (2011); Billionaires and Ballot Bandits (2012); and How Trump Stole 2020 (2020). He has also provided evidence for numerous lawsuits.2 Some of this is discussed in a recent movie Vigilantes, Inc., America’s new vote suppression hitmen, 1:20 h:mm, which can be watched for free from his website, gregpalast.com.3

Claim that “Trump lost, vote suppression won”
A 2025-02-07 article by Thom Hartmann on gregpalast.com4 claims, “Greg Palast proved that Jim Crow tactics cost Vice President Harris 3.56 million votes, four states—and the presidency.”:5 “If all legal voters were allowed to vote, if all legal ballots were counted, Trump would have lost the states of Wisconsin, Michigan, Pennsylvania and Georgia. Vice-President Kamala Harris would have won the Presidency with 286 electoral votes.
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Re: The Thread of Democrats

Post by Cunt » Mon Mar 10, 2025 10:18 pm

macdoc wrote:
Mon Mar 10, 2025 7:34 pm
Are you entirely sure he "won"??
Investigative journalist Greg Palast claims that Kamala Harris would have won the 2024 US presidential election without massive vote suppression by Republicans in many different States. He was interviewed by Spencer Graves.

Greg Palast
Palast is known for his investigative reports for The Guardian and his books including The Best Democracy Money Can Buy (2002);1 Democracy and Regulation (2003); Armed Madhouse (2006, 2007), Vultures Picnic (2011); Billionaires and Ballot Bandits (2012); and How Trump Stole 2020 (2020). He has also provided evidence for numerous lawsuits.2 Some of this is discussed in a recent movie Vigilantes, Inc., America’s new vote suppression hitmen, 1:20 h:mm, which can be watched for free from his website, gregpalast.com.3

Claim that “Trump lost, vote suppression won”
A 2025-02-07 article by Thom Hartmann on gregpalast.com4 claims, “Greg Palast proved that Jim Crow tactics cost Vice President Harris 3.56 million votes, four states—and the presidency.”:5 “If all legal voters were allowed to vote, if all legal ballots were counted, Trump would have lost the states of Wisconsin, Michigan, Pennsylvania and Georgia. Vice-President Kamala Harris would have won the Presidency with 286 electoral votes.
https://kkfi.org/program-episodes/palas ... elections/
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Post by L'Emmerdeur » Tue Mar 11, 2025 12:01 am

Much clever, so trolling. He's a convicted felon, go smoke a bowl and cry about it.

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Re: The Thread of Democrats

Post by Tyrannical » Tue Mar 11, 2025 1:55 am

Elderly man with a poor memory meets autopen and 25th amendment.

The fact that we went through the trouble of passing it as a constitutional amendment means we don't need a penalty clause, treason is already implied. Biden's personal doctor may have lots to say, under penalty of literal execution for treason.
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Re: The Thread of Democrats

Post by macdoc » Tue Mar 11, 2025 3:31 am

As sure as I am about the previous admin's win.
got any proof of that? Nah....you just swallow the right wing Koolaid....don't need no fookin proof. :smoke:
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Re: The Thread of Democrats

Post by Sean Hayden » Tue Mar 18, 2025 6:03 pm

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Re: The Thread of Democrats

Post by Cunt » Tue Mar 18, 2025 7:27 pm

macdoc wrote:
Tue Mar 11, 2025 3:31 am
As sure as I am about the previous admin's win.
got any proof of that? Nah....you just swallow the right wing Koolaid....don't need no fookin proof. :smoke:
Proof that I am as sure?

Ya, it's there in my statement.

Only a democrat could interpret it any other way lol
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Post by Cunt » Thu Mar 20, 2025 4:53 pm

Imagine being an adult Democrat, and being so gullible, that you allow yourself to be talked into vandalizing cars. Specifically cars that are known to have multiple cameras and 'sentry mode'.
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Re: The Thread of Democrats

Post by JimC » Thu Mar 20, 2025 6:44 pm

The actions of a lunatic fringe are no basis for a critique of mainstream progressive politics...
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Re: The Thread of Democrats

Post by Cunt » Thu Mar 20, 2025 7:59 pm

low level violence of this nature is very popular, because most people can do it without being held to account.

The sentry videos showing on x are hilariously democrat-looking. I'm guessing there will be memes
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Re: The Thread of Democrats

Post by Sean Hayden » Thu Mar 20, 2025 8:22 pm

I’m not surprised. It’s important to understand how Americans view privacy. Some rich guy buying access to everyone’s data with no oversight is something you would expect to enrage both sides. And that’s what we see. Republicans and Democrats are angry.
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