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Re: Palestine v Israel.

Post by Strontium Dog » Fri Mar 01, 2024 9:06 pm

pErvinalia wrote:
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No evidence for rape on Oct 7, so you must be talking about the rape of Palestinian prisoners in Israeli custody.

Absolutely disgraceful, atrocity denier. As sick as anything on this Earth.
Sicker than Netanyahu slaughtering thousands of children?

People die in war. Thought you should know.
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Post by pErvinalia » Fri Mar 01, 2024 9:08 pm

You're as sick as anything on this Earth.
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Post by Strontium Dog » Fri Mar 01, 2024 9:17 pm

Having seen your output over the years, I can see why you would be grossly offended by a simple statement of fact.
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Post by pErvinalia » Fri Mar 01, 2024 9:54 pm

That the IDF are mass child murderers?
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Post by Strontium Dog » Fri Mar 01, 2024 11:28 pm

Yep, keep on trotting out those blood libels.
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Post by Brian Peacock » Sat Mar 02, 2024 9:18 am

c.12,000 children dead. c.17,000 children orphaned or separated from their parents. I can't see why you would affect being grossly offended by simple statements of fact like this SD. Can you?
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Post by Strontium Dog » Sat Mar 02, 2024 1:05 pm

Please, spare me the Hamas propaganda.
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Post by aufbahrung » Sat Mar 02, 2024 1:07 pm

Young population. They've been saved from a lifetime of hatred looking on the bright side, if they don't like war then why start a war? Could have gone with the Abrahamic accords, Christ, Gaza could rival Singapore today for prosperity if they'd embraced capitalism rather tunnel building like the Vietcong on steroids. Maybe the remaining young need to revolt against their elders and install new management?
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Post by Tero » Sat Mar 02, 2024 1:08 pm

I blame Rome. The bit from 10 min on.

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Post by Brian Peacock » Sat Mar 02, 2024 11:06 pm

Strontium Dog wrote:Please, spare me the Hamas propaganda.
If you dispute the numbers then show us your sources. You've been asked for this already when claiming that the death toll is fictitious. How much do you think it's off by; how many people have the IDF really killed?
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Post by aufbahrung » Sun Mar 03, 2024 12:35 am

Nobody knows the numbers during a war. Always going to be inflationary or deflationary figures depending on propaganda value. Some idea comes later but during the war itself you need to rely on the morality of the soldiers to uphold human rights. A fair mistake is that. Not sure the numbers matter so much, the dead are dead after all, and definitely not going to be reliable from any quarter in this heated blood feud Hamas ignited. As the UN Charter says

The Rome Statute of the International Criminal Court refers to the crime of aggression as one of the "most serious crimes of concern to the international community", and provides that the crime falls within the jurisdiction of the International Criminal Court (ICC). However, the Rome Statute stipulates that the ICC may not exercise its jurisdiction over the crime of aggression until such time as the states parties agree on a definition of the crime and set out the conditions under which it may be prosecuted.
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Re: Palestine v Israel.

Post by rainbow » Sun Mar 03, 2024 12:09 pm

Strontium Dog wrote:
Fri Mar 01, 2024 8:52 pm
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No evidence for rape on Oct 7, so you must be talking about the rape of Palestinian prisoners in Israeli custody.

Absolutely disgraceful, atrocity denier. As sick as anything on this Earth.
UN experts demand investigation into claims Israeli forces killed, raped and sexually assaulted Palestinian women and girls
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Re: Palestine v Israel.

Post by rainbow » Sun Mar 03, 2024 12:22 pm

aufbahrung wrote:
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Nobody knows the numbers during a war.
...so Israel is lying about the number of Hamas fighters they've managed to kill.

:fp:

Add to the lies about beheaded babies
- the lies about the hospitals being used as headquarters, the lies about the rapes, the lies about the "human Shields".



How many more lies do you want us to list?

Indiscriminate killing of civilians is terrorism and a War Crime.

Israel did it and the world is watching. Netanyahu and his gang of thugs will face the International Criminal Court.
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Post by Brian Peacock » Sun Mar 03, 2024 12:46 pm

aufbahrung wrote:
Sun Mar 03, 2024 12:35 am
Nobody knows the numbers during a war. Always going to be inflationary or deflationary figures depending on propaganda value. Some idea comes later but during the war itself you need to rely on the morality of the soldiers to uphold human rights. A fair mistake is that. Not sure the numbers matter so much, the dead are dead after all, and definitely not going to be reliable from any quarter in this heated blood feud Hamas ignited. As the UN Charter says

The Rome Statute of the International Criminal Court refers to the crime of aggression as one of the "most serious crimes of concern to the international community", and provides that the crime falls within the jurisdiction of the International Criminal Court (ICC). However, the Rome Statute stipulates that the ICC may not exercise its jurisdiction over the crime of aggression until such time as the states parties agree on a definition of the crime and set out the conditions under which it may be prosecuted.
Oh, I'm not looking for the absolute number down to the last corpse or body part. Just SD's ball-park figure from reliable sources. You'll note I said circa this many children dead or orphaned - perhaps the figures are out by 1,000 or 2,000 or whatever. Perhaps the IDF have only killed and orphaned half that amount of children - 5,000 dead and 8,500 orphaned? If SD is so sure the numbers are wrong he'll no doubt swing straight in to help us firm up the actual death toll eh? Or perhaps he's just drive-by trolling?
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Re: Palestine v Israel.

Post by aufbahrung » Sun Mar 03, 2024 12:50 pm

They'll get nearer the accurate figures after the clowns and goons have stopped killing each other and bystanders - later on. Why worry, it's their major pass time in that part of the world. Good at blood feuds and kicking off like a looney bin on scooby snacks...it's what they do when not Godbothering the world with a higher morality presented by the schizoid God of three religions.
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