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Re: All Things Trump: the story continues...

Post by Tero » Tue Nov 14, 2023 1:51 am

pErvinalia wrote:
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This is dangerous rhetoric. I hope he doesn't win the next election.
TV lady says he is testing his party. In fact, the Republican Party is the only organ that can stop him from running.

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Since Trump does not read books, we think Stephen Miller writes these.

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Re: All Things Trump: the story continues...

Post by JimC » Tue Nov 14, 2023 3:09 am

The next election is the Democrats to lose, if they go with Biden, and voters simply think he's past it. Trump, unpopular as he may be, could win by default...

If it is Trump vs Biden, I predict a record low voter turnout...
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The next election is the Democrats to lose, if they go with Biden, and voters simply think he's past it. Trump, unpopular as he may be, could win by default...

If it is Trump vs Biden, I predict a record low voter turnout...
That's the worst of it. Less voice. It isn't as fun to heckle the Yanks when they didn't pick.

I still think crossing the aisle would please more voters, but who would take a Musk/Ocasio-Cortez ticket idea seriously? Or a Anne Coulter/Bernie Sanders pairing...

It's almost like there CAN'T be some getting along, at least between THOSE two groups.
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Post by L'Emmerdeur » Tue Nov 14, 2023 3:40 am

A former White House official who worked for Trump for over a year:
[Trump] lacks any shred of human decency, humility or caring. He is morally bankrupt, breathtakingly dishonest, lethally incompetent, and stunningly ignorant of virtually anything related to governing, history, geography, human events or world affairs. He is a traitor and a malignancy in the nation, and represents a clear and present danger to our democracy, and the rule of law.

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Hardly the first who worked for Trump to excoriate their former boss in similar terms. This one is fearful (not without reason) of 'retribution from both Trump and his people against him and his family,' and made his statement anonymously.

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Re: All Things Trump: the story continues...

Post by Brian Peacock » Tue Nov 14, 2023 7:29 am

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Geez, Bioclandestine, tell us how you REALLY feel...
https://t.me/bioclandestine/2544
Bioclandestine/Warclandestine wrote:The Left are now crying that Trump is going to weaponize the government.

Meanwhile, the Left have already weaponized the entire government and the private sector and have been waging war on Trump and his supporters for years…

-The media is a propaganda arm of the DNC, and they have made that abundantly clear over the last 7 years or so. Pushing the false Russiagate story despite zero evidence. Covid and Ukraine. All of them lies 24/7. All weaponized to harm Trump.

-Social media is a propaganda arm of the DNC. Twitter and other social media outlets were having weekly meetings with, and taking direct orders from, the FBI/DHS. They interfered in every single election. They censored factual evidence about the Biden Laptop, Covid, Ukraine, etc. They went full Orwell and violated the 1st Amendment freedoms protected by the Constitution. Targeting Conservatives.

-Academia is a propaganda arm of the DNC. Government schools and public universities are teaching children woke trans gender insanity, and embedding Left-wing talking points in their minds. Teaching them from a young age to develop a hatred for white men and conservatism. The Left are literally brainwashing our children to be Democrat voters while we are at work.

-The Executive Branch is a propaganda arm of the DNC. The FBI/CIA have been weaponized to destroy anyone who threatens Deep State control of the US. They have been attacking Trump by covert and overt means since he came down the escalator. They staged January 6th to convince the public that all Trump supporters were domestic terrorists. The Biden regime weaponized the DOJ, raided Trump’s house, indicted him, arrested him multiple times, and is trying to put him in jail by any means necessary before November 2024.

So for all the Left-wing media-types clutching your pearls over the idea of Trump weaponizing the government, you have to realize that your side are the evil ones who already weaponized every fabric of American society.

The American People are sick of your shit and there will be consequences for the way you all have conducted yourselves over the last 20 years or so.

Our turn is coming, and there is nothing you can do or say that will stop it.
That's funny, because they think weaponising the govt started with Biden, when the govt has always been the weapon power uses to bend the people to its will. It's also funny because there seems to be nothing wrong with Trump weaponising the govt, so it's just a bleating whinge about who has their finger on the trigger rather than being any principled stance against using the govt as a weapon. I suspect this tells us rather more about their views and their thinking than they realise themselves.
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Re: All Things Trump: the story continues...

Post by Brian Peacock » Tue Nov 14, 2023 7:31 am

L'Emmerdeur wrote:
Tue Nov 14, 2023 3:40 am
A former White House official who worked for Trump for over a year:
[Trump] lacks any shred of human decency, humility or caring. He is morally bankrupt, breathtakingly dishonest, lethally incompetent, and stunningly ignorant of virtually anything related to governing, history, geography, human events or world affairs. He is a traitor and a malignancy in the nation, and represents a clear and present danger to our democracy, and the rule of law.

[source]
Yeah, but what are his bad points? :tea:
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Post by Brian Peacock » Tue Nov 14, 2023 7:36 am

pErvinalia wrote:
Tue Nov 14, 2023 1:50 am
This is dangerous rhetoric. I hope he doesn't win the next election.

... The distinguishing thing about the paranoid style is not that its exponents see conspiracies or plots here and there in history, but that they regard a "vast" or "gigantic" conspiracy as the motive ftlrce in historical events. History is a conspiracy. set in motion by demonic forces of almost transcendental power, and what is felt to be needed to defeat it is not the usual methods of political give­-and-take, but an all-out crusade.

The paranoid spokesman sees the fare of this conspiracy in apocalyptic terms--he traffics in the birth and death of whole worlds, whole political orders. whole systems of human values. He is always manning the barricades of civilisation. He constantly lives at a turning point: it is now or never in organising resistance to conspiracy. Time is forever just running out. Like religious mil­lenarians, he expresses the anxiety of those who are living through the last days and he is sometimes disposed to set a date for the apocalypse.

The apocalypticism of the paranoid style runs dangerously near to hopeless pessimism, but usually stops short of it. Apocalyptic warnings arouse passion and militancy. and strike at susceptibility to similar themes in Christianity. Properly expressed, such warnings serve somewhat the same function as a description of the horrible consequences of sin in a revivalist sermon: they portray that which impends but which may still be avoided. They are a secular and demonic version of adventism.

As a member of the avant-garde who is capable of perceiving the conspiracy before it is fully obvious to an as yet un­-aroused public, the paranoid is a militant leader. He does not see social conflict as something to be mediated and compromised, in the manner of the working politician. Since what is at stake is always a conflict between absolute good and absolute evil; the quality needed is not a willingness to compromise but the will to fight things out to a finish. Nothing but complete victory will do.

Since the enemy is thought of as being totally evil and totally unappeasable, he must be totally eliminated--if not from the world, at least from the theater of operations to which the paranoid directs his attention. This demand for unqualified victories leads to the formulation of hopelessly demanding and unrealistic goals, and since these goals are not even remotely attainable, failure constantly heightens the paranoid's frustration. Even partial success leaves him with the same sense of powerlessness with which he began, and this in turn only strengthens his awareness of the vast and terrifying quality of the enemy he opposes.

This enemy is clearly delineated: he is a perfect model of malice, a kind of amoral superman: sinister, ubiquitous, powerful. cruel, sensual, luxury-loving. Unlike the rest of us, the enemy is not caught in the toils of the vast mechanism of history, himself a victim of his past, his desires, his limitations. He is a free, active, demonic agent. He wills, indeed he manufactures, the mechanism of history himself. or deflects the normal course of history in an evil way. He makes crises, starts runs on banks, causes depressions, manufactures disasters, and then enjoys and profits from the misery he has produced.

The paranoid's interpretation of history is in this sense distinctly personal: decisive events are not taken as part of the mean of history, but as the consequences of someone's will. Very often the enemy is held to possess some especially effective source of power: he controls the press; he directs the public mind through "managed news"; he has unlimited funds; he has a new secret for influencing the mind (brain washing); he has a special technique for seduction (the Catholic confessional); he is gaining a stranglehold on the educational system...

A final aspect of the paranoid style is related to that quality of pedantry to which I have already referred. One of the impressive things about paranoid literature is precisely the elaborate concern with demonstration it almost invariably shows. One should not be misled by the fantastic conclusions that are so characteristic of this style into imagining that it is not, so to speak, argued out along factual lines. The very fantastic character of its conclusions leads to heroic strivings for "evidence" to prove that the unbelievable is the only thing that can be believed.

Of course, there are highbrow, lowbrow, and middlebrow paranoids, as there are likely to be in any political tendency, and paranoid movements from the Middle Ages onward have had a magnetic attraction for demi­-intellectuals. But respectable paranoid literature not only starts from certain moral commitments that can be justified to many non-paranoids but also carefully and all but obsessively accumulates "evidence."

The singular thing about all this laborious work is that the passion for factual evidence does not, as in most intellectual exchanges, have the effect of putting the paranoid spokesman into effective two-way communication with the world outside his group--least of all with those who doubt his views. He has little real hope that his evidence will convince a hostile world. His effort to amass it bas rather the quality of a defensive act which shuts off his perceptive apparatus and protects him from having to attend to disturbing considerations that do not fortify his ideas. He has all the evidence he needs; he is not a receiver, he is a transmitter....


Richard Hofstadter, The Paranoid Style in American Politics, Harvard University Press, 1951
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Post by Tero » Tue Nov 14, 2023 12:43 pm

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Seems to reflect polls, or their accuracy. Trump beats either massively or just barely, or Biden gets popular vote but loses election.

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Post by Cunt » Tue Nov 14, 2023 2:10 pm

They should publish an anonymous screed from someone close to him. THAT'LL be convincing.

Just in case a timely prosecution doesn't help enough.
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Post by Cunt » Tue Nov 14, 2023 3:13 pm

Trump trail, crypto stuff, and a slap at the disgusting acts of the UN. I don't like this guys blues music, but I don't hate it either.

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Tero wrote:
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Since Trump does not read books, we think Stephen Miller writes these.
Trump is not actually campaigning to win. He is campaigning to raise as much money as he can to pay his lawyers. The year of 2024 will be an existential crisis for him, resulting in more and more outrageous revenge plans. If he gets elected, it is jus a bonus for him then. He will dabble in hatred all 4 years. But do nothing as leader.

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Post by Cunt » Tue Nov 14, 2023 5:04 pm

That's one side. His is a bit different...
https://t.me/real_DonaldJTrump/16301
Trump wrote:Racist A.G. Letitia James is smirking all day long from her seat in Court, as New York continues to set records in murder and other violent crimes, and businesses flee to other States. “This is a law that’s rather bazar, this is a law that doesn’t require any victims (there are none, except me!), it doesn’t require anyone to lose money - the banks didn’t complain here, they made money. You have a (Trump Hating!) Attorney General who’s seeking hundreds of millions of dollars in damages when not a single penny was lost by these banks, and that’s part of this (Unconstitutional!) Law…You can see from the reaction of A.G. James, every morning from that seat, that she is enjoying this, enjoying it a bit too much.” Law Professor Jonathan Turley. THIS LAW HAS NEVER BEEN USED FOR THIS BEFORE. It is both Unconstitutional and very UNFAIR! No businesses will come to New York, only continue to leave. The whole case is RIGGED from D.C. It is ELECTION INTERFERENCE. OUR COUNTRY IS BROKEN & CORRUPT!!!
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Post by rasetsu » Tue Nov 14, 2023 11:09 pm

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