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Re: Media Bias

Post by L'Emmerdeur » Sat Sep 23, 2023 2:03 am

I imagine the corporate media felt that the stories they produced about O'Keefe were helpful in attracting eyeballs. Whatever, he repeatedly demonstrated his devotion to dishonesty, grifting, and self-promotion. I understand he's got a yen to be a song and dance man. More power to him, maybe he can make it in Hollywood or on the small-time theatre circuit. He'd be bound to find some of like mind there.

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Post by Cunt » Sat Sep 23, 2023 2:11 am

L'Emmerdeur wrote:
Sat Sep 23, 2023 2:03 am
I imagine the corporate media felt that the stories they produced about O'Keefe were helpful in attracting eyeballs. Whatever, he repeatedly demonstrated his devotion to dishonesty, grifting, and self-promotion. I understand he's got a yen to be a song and dance man. More power to him, maybe he can make it in Hollywood or on the small-time theatre circuit. He'd be bound to find some of like mind there.
Oh yes, the character attacks, while vague and predictable, are something I will consider against the stories he has broken.

And continues to break.

Including, amusingly enough, about Project Veritas :)
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Post by L'Emmerdeur » Sat Sep 23, 2023 2:41 am

Cunt wrote:
Sat Sep 23, 2023 2:11 am
L'Emmerdeur wrote:
Sat Sep 23, 2023 2:03 am
I imagine the corporate media felt that the stories they produced about O'Keefe were helpful in attracting eyeballs. Whatever, he repeatedly demonstrated his devotion to dishonesty, grifting, and self-promotion. I understand he's got a yen to be a song and dance man. More power to him, maybe he can make it in Hollywood or on the small-time theatre circuit. He'd be bound to find some of like mind there.
Oh yes, the character attacks, while vague and predictable, are something I will consider against the stories he has broken.

And continues to break.

Including, amusingly enough, about Project Veritas :)
Goes directly to whether he's a dependable source. It seems you don't care whether the people who produce content you use to inform yourself have repeatedly demonstrated that their information is inherently dishonest. I understand that mainstream media itself is often slanted and can be downright dishonest. To dismiss mainstream media and hold up a known grifting liar as a superior source of information doesn't really make sense though.

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Post by Cunt » Sat Sep 23, 2023 3:29 am

You are welcome to decline to depend on him, of course.

You haven't convinced me of his dishonesty. Even though you said 'inherently'. Where do you think 'mainstream media' has been right and him wrong? Do you mean the currently unfolding story? Or a historic one?

You are right about his dancing though. If he works at it, he really COULD get to the small-time theatre circuit.
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Re: Media Bias

Post by Brian Peacock » Sat Sep 23, 2023 8:02 pm

Cunt wrote:
Sat Sep 23, 2023 3:29 am
You are welcome to decline to depend on him, of course.

You haven't convinced me of his dishonesty. Even though you said 'inherently'. Where do you think 'mainstream media' has been right and him wrong? Do you mean the currently unfolding story? Or a historic one?

You are right about his dancing though. If he works at it, he really COULD get to the small-time theatre circuit.
Meh. Have you ever considered that the billionaire and corporate media and O'Keefe could both be duplicitous and dishonest in how they represent information and their political and economic interests? You keep speaking as if anyone pointing out O'Keefe's proven dishonesty automatically outs themselves as a devotee of the abhorrently 'left-wing' legacy media - but if you knew anything about what it means to be left-wing you'd know that i) mainstream media isn't remotely left-leaning in it's outlook, far from it, and ii) lefties really don't like the billionaires and corporates because they exert unaccountable political and economic power which systematically undermines democratic and social progress.

You only ever repeat what someone else has told you about what being left-wing actually means, and it's all completely bad of course, but one day you might want to stop and ask yourself who is selling you the idea that ordinary people aren't fit or capable of being in charge of themselves, and that we shouldn't be allowed to organise our societies in ways which actually work for the communities we live in - because every time you play the "left-wing card" that's exactly what you're buying into.
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Re: Media Bias

Post by Cunt » Sun Sep 24, 2023 4:29 am

Brian Peacock wrote:
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O'Keefe's proven dishonesty
It's not 'proven' to me.

If you want to tell me which 'proven dishonesty' convinced you that he was an untrustworthy source, it might make some difference.
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Post by Cunt » Wed Sep 27, 2023 6:47 pm

While BP brings evidence to support their claims of O'Keefe's 'proven dishonesty', I'll continue enjoying OMG's work.

OMG media is working in Hawaii, and recording how officials are dealing with citizens.

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A Maui citizen I spoke with who did not know I was wearing a hidden camera, requested a hidden camera! So we teamed up...
I wonder why the official mentioned that the recording could not be used in court. Hmmm...weird...
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Post by L'Emmerdeur » Sun Oct 08, 2023 7:17 pm

A professional dolt at Fox News is openly pushing some boogaloo shit.

'Fox News' Greg Gutfeld Floats Civil War Because "Elections Don't Work"'
Fox News host Greg Gutfeld, supposedly the right-wing network’s resident comedian, dove into extremely dark and violent territory on Thursday, seemingly urging for a new American civil war because “elections don’t work” and the nation is in “peril and chaos.”

Gutfeld, whose rhetoric has grown angrier and more extreme in recent years, declared during Thursday’s broadcast of Fox News’ The Five that American democracy was no longer feasible. Instead, because crime has supposedly spun out of control—despite homicide rates falling this year and crime just a fraction of what it was 30 years ago—he suggested a radically violent solution.

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“Only certain people get criminal mulligans and Jan. 6 protestors, they don’t get criminal mulligans and here’s why. They’re the oppressor. So the oppressed get criminal mulligans,” he exclaimed.“The people who are complaining, like us, we’re actually oppressors, and we’re losing power so that’s why we are upset. I just got a job at MSNBC,” Gutfeld snarked, before comparing the “rights” of criminals to victims of crime.

“Criminals get a mulligan, they can steal up to $900 worth of stuff, they can loiter, sleep, and shoot up in public areas, including playgrounds, they can loot and burn and call it social justice,” he declared. “They can pile up dozens of arrests and never do time. Meanwhile, what about us? Well, we have to change our lives to accommodate risk wherever we go. We have to move out of cities for the sake of the safety of our families and our own safety. That’s what’s happening.”

Gutfeld continued: “We are being driven out of cities by the oppressed, so I return to my imperfect analogy from yesterday. We had a war over slavery. We knew slavery was inhumane and immoral, but somehow we couldn’t solve slavery peacefully.” Pointing out that slavery was “evil,” Gutfeld then said “one side refused to acknowledge it was evil because it was too big of an admission for them to make.” From there, he suggested that the United States was inevitably heading to another violent civil war.

“Doesn’t that feel that way now?” Gutfeld rhetorically asked. “That this defiant refusal to reverse this decline argues against the survival of a country. What does that leave you with? It leaves you with ‘you need to make war to bring peace’ because you have a side that cannot change. Because then that means the admission that their beliefs have been corrupt all the time. So in a way, you have to force them to surrender.”

Liberal co-host Harold Ford Jr., meanwhile, responded to Gutfeld that “we can have an election,” prompting the so-called “King of Late Night” to seemingly go full fascist.

“No, elections don’t work,” Gutfeld retorted. “We know that. We know they don’t work!”

After Ford said “they do work,” Gutfeld went on a dystopian tirade before again insisting that democracy is no longer a viable path.

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Re: Media Bias

Post by Brian Peacock » Mon Oct 09, 2023 1:57 am

They won't be happy until there's no water in the faucets.
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Re: Media Bias

Post by JimC » Mon Oct 09, 2023 2:47 am

Elections don't work because the idiot voters keep electing people with the wrong ideology! :lay:

But this whole thing illustrates the disturbing connection between the extreme right and extreme left;

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Post by pErvinalia » Mon Oct 09, 2023 3:29 am

And centrist are going to be the first ones at the gallows!
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Post by JimC » Mon Oct 09, 2023 4:43 am

Can I chose whether I'm hanged by a rabid Marxist or a right wing crazy?
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Post by Sean Hayden » Mon Oct 09, 2023 8:05 am

--sounds like a terrorist to me
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Post by Brian Peacock » Mon Oct 09, 2023 9:28 am

pErvinalia wrote:
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And centrist are going to be the first ones at the gallows!
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Post by Cunt » Mon Oct 09, 2023 3:44 pm

Brian Peacock wrote:
Mon Oct 09, 2023 9:28 am
pErvinalia wrote:
Mon Oct 09, 2023 3:29 am
And centrist are going to be the first ones at the gallows!
:hehe:
https://t.me/OKeefeMediaGroup/620
Pfizer Whistleblower Melissa McAtee is the first Pfizer employee who came forward to reveal internal documents from Senior Director in the company discussing lying to their customers about the COVID vaccine.

‘We want to avoid having the information on the fetal cells floating out there’

James Lalino questioned Senior Director who sprinted in the opposite direction, which itself became a meme.

Two years later, Melissa’s actions inspired others. She is heroic and courageous - you benefited from the knowledge she brought forward. Now she is struggling and could really use your support.
Are whistleblowers treated different, depending on whether they blow on the left or the right?

Pfizer, who pays heaps of money to advertise on some networks, got exposed. I wonder how they would use their influence to defend themselves...

You may have missed it, BP, but I did ask about O'Keefe's 'proven dishonesty' you mentioned.

Absent your evidence, I'll just treat it as if you said you didn't like him, and consider his record MUCH better than Rachel Madcow and the CIA Orchestra.
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