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Post by L'Emmerdeur » Mon Sep 18, 2023 2:54 am

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Who funds O'Keefe?
As the his answer shows, he neither knows nor cares. I don't think he actually cares who funds mainstream media either; the schtick is just parroting right-wing talking points.

As for O'Keefe, he's currently trying to woo donors away from Project Veritas after being booted for his shenanigans, including appropriating company funds for his personal use. :hehe:

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L'Emmerdeur wrote:
Mon Sep 18, 2023 2:54 am
Brian Peacock wrote:
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Who funds O'Keefe?
As the his answer shows, he neither knows nor cares. I don't think he actually cares who funds mainstream media either; the schtick is just parroting right-wing talking points.

As for O'Keefe, he's currently trying to woo donors away from Project Veritas after being booted for his shenanigans, including appropriating company funds for his personal use. :hehe:

How is Project Veritas doing, now that he left? Did they burn themselves up immediately, or improve greatly with his departure?

How would a biased media portray his exposure of ABC and their protection of Epstein? By investigating the facts of the story? Or attacking the character of the person breaking the story?
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Post by pErvinalia » Mon Sep 18, 2023 6:49 am

He just can't quite stick to the point.
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Post by Brian Peacock » Mon Sep 18, 2023 9:54 am

He seems to assume we're fans of the billionaire press and all adored Epstein too.
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Post by Brian Peacock » Mon Sep 18, 2023 1:08 pm

L'Emmerdeur wrote:
Mon Sep 18, 2023 2:54 am
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Sun Sep 17, 2023 11:07 am
Who funds O'Keefe?
As the his answer shows, he neither knows nor cares. I don't think he actually cares who funds mainstream media either; the schtick is just parroting right-wing talking points.
Aye. It's all part of the Right's victim narrative which conflates that everyone has good reason to be concerned about the concentration of power and influence in the hands of the private media outlets of billionaires and corporations with a belief that they and their ideas alone should be on top of the media, political and social dog pile.

They're not really looking to overthrow the media, or to reshape politics or improve the social landscape; they don't even want to challenge the current systems of power in general - they just want to control and administer those systems in order to secure the power they believe they're automatically entitled to. In that regard the far-right has far more in common with the billionaire and corporate media than they realise, or are willing to admit.

Outlets like Project Veritas and OMG only exist because they are backed by billionaires and corporations, and it's why the focus of contempt of these outlets are anyone and anything that might actually work to improve the lives of ordinary people and/or limit, control, or regulate the power and influence of the Oligarchs and Plutocrats. The far-right don't exist to challenge the power of billionaires and corporations, they exist to secure it.

Marx called these kinds people 'useful idiots'.
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Post by Cunt » Mon Sep 18, 2023 3:22 pm

Brian Peacock wrote:
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He seems to assume we're fans of the billionaire press and all adored Epstein too.
Nope. I assume you are outraged by the plain abuse of children by the wealthy, in public, under the protection of government.

With that being the case, I wonder which of your trusted news sources has dug into who the customers are. Unless of course they are ALL biased somehow, against revealing the information.

To me, those who (like ABC/Disney) had clear connections to him, should be assumed to be working to conceal the truth for reasons they have not offered. It makes the rest of what they say highly suspect.

If I had to guess, I would guess that you would merrily reveal ALL the customers, while trying to protect the victims as much as practical.

So if you assume I am treating you as fans of Maxell (and her little bitch Epstein) you assumed wrong. What else might you be wrong about?

That story is one of the ones that shows media bias very clearly. It shouldn't be contentious at all to think ill of those who participate in hiding the customers.
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Post by Tero » Fri Sep 22, 2023 12:07 pm

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During Barack Obama’s presidency, Fox News provided endless hours of coverage of raucous Tea Party rallies and of the “birther” campaign — a false story claiming that Obama wasn’t born in the U.S. — to delegitimize the nation’s first Black president. Both were quintessential Fox: building a populist, right-wing groundswell into a movement that delivered reliably big ratings and stoked the G.O.P. base, creating and feeding an appetite for cultural warfare.

It was that groundswell — and Fox’s amplification of it — that propelled Donald Trump’s political rise. Murdoch and Trump have had an on-and-off relationship. Murdoch initially opposed his 2016 candidacy, but eventually swung Fox behind him and was thrilled to have a president whom he could get on the phone whenever he needed.

During the Trump presidency, Fox became America’s dominant news network. But it also became a kind of prisoner of its own business model, spawning numerous imitators and an ecosystem of right-wing outlets that were seeking to threaten its monopoly over conservative voters. Even as Murdoch privately dismissed Trump’s claims of voter fraud as “really crazy stuff,” his network kept selling the lie. Its support ultimately came at a financial cost: In April, the network agreed to pay nearly $800 million to settle a defamation lawsuit brought by Dominion Voting Systems over 2020 election coverage.

Though Trump and Murdoch’s relationship is currently off, there is little doubt that Fox will back Trump if he becomes the Republican nominee. Its viewers will demand it.
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Post by pErvinalia » Fri Sep 22, 2023 12:16 pm

Tero this is the thread for left wing media bias (the best media bias). We don't discuss right wing media bias.
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Post by Cunt » Fri Sep 22, 2023 5:55 pm

The CAHN, a canadian clone of the us's ADL, has come under fire for being the sole source of the lies the government used a couple years ago, to enact the emergency measures act.

If they are a 'right-wing' organization, they'll be crucified by the corporate media.

If they are a 'left-wing' org, they'll have gentle, favourable coverage of their part.

In either case, the government will not be held accountable for the circle-jerk they used to break up the trucker protest.

Canada is such a small country though, so it won't really be noticed by the wider world.
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Post by Brian Peacock » Fri Sep 22, 2023 6:59 pm

lol. You think being 'left-wing' means being against organised labour.
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Post by Cunt » Fri Sep 22, 2023 7:08 pm

Brian Peacock wrote:
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lol. You think being 'left-wing' means being against organised labour.
Your understanding really is curious.

One day, I may be able to decipher what you mean, but watch the media bias unfold, predictably, with regards to the establishment-friendly CAHN
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Post by Brian Peacock » Fri Sep 22, 2023 7:42 pm

Cunt wrote:
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lol. You think being 'left-wing' means being against organised labour.
Your understanding really is curious.

One day, I may be able to decipher what you mean, but watch the media bias unfold, predictably, with regards to the establishment-friendly CAHN
Really? A Truckers Protest is organised labour. The 'left-wing' are not against this - in fact we're for even more of it - so this can't be what singles the media's reaction to the protest as 'left-wing' or make the govt lefties for apparently 'breaking up the truckers protest'.

Cross-border US/CA vaccine restrictions were said to be impacting trucker's livelihoods, and the govt didn't seem to want to do anything about it, so the story goes that they organised a protest. "Good on them" a lefty might say. Unfortunately, the Canadian Trucking Alliance, which represents the haulage industry, and union leaders representing long-haul drivers condemned the protest, with the CTA stating that most of the protesters actually had no connection to trucking - because it wasn't about truckers or trucking but about vaccines, organised by Canadian Unity.

A govt should have a responsibility for the public health of society at large, a responsibility that outweighs demands which would put the public at a greater health risk, unless one thinks that enhancing the public health of society at large is a bad thing, and therefore 'left-wing' of course. So 'you can't make us have the vaccine' Freedom Convoy wasn't about truckers and therefore is a completely different thing to workers organising a protest about their working conditions or pay, isn't it? I wonder what the antivax response would have been to the mid-20century drive to eradicate smallpox and polio?
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Post by rasetsu » Fri Sep 22, 2023 8:24 pm

Project Veritas Suspends All Operations Indefinitely: Report
Project Veritas, the right-wing media group known primarily for its undercover video stings, suspended all operations on Wednesday after months of unsuccessful cost-cutting measures, according to Mediaite.

In a letter to the organization’s few remaining staffers, human resources director Jennifer Kiyak said that it was necessary to put operations on pause in “the interest of preserving the possible future existence of Project Veritas.” She also announced another round of layoffs in the note, calling the move a “Reduction in Force,” Mediate reported.

Sources told the outlet that half a dozen staffers were laid off this week alone, including all its remaining journalists. Just 11 people remain on payroll, one former staffer told Mediate.

The development was first reported earlier on Wednesday by Bobby Harr, a former investigative reporter for Project Veritas. He tweeted that Kiyak and CEO Hannah Giles had cited “financial ruin as reason for [the] additional layoffs.”

Harr told Mediate on Wednesday that he’d been part of the most recent cull, having been officially laid off via phone call earlier that afternoon. The conversation had “confused” him, he said, since he thought he’d been terminated the previous month. He was provided no severance pay, he said.

“I was confused by this as my job was actually cut during the first round of layoffs while I was on medical leave,” he said. “I was locked out of my work phone and laptop as of that day and my paychecks stopped.”

Christian Hartsock, another staffer who was axed from Project Veritas in August, told Mediate that he was surprised the nonprofit was even still running. “I have no idea what ‘operations’ there are to suspend,” he quipped.

Harr blamed unsound leadership for Project Veritas’ shuttering. “Lack of funding and poor management amplified the damage that James O’Keefe already did to the organization prior to the days of Hannah Giles, who then delivered the final blow,” he said.

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Re: Media Bias

Post by Cunt » Fri Sep 22, 2023 8:29 pm

Brian Peacock wrote:
Fri Sep 22, 2023 7:42 pm
Cunt wrote:
Fri Sep 22, 2023 7:08 pm
Brian Peacock wrote:
Fri Sep 22, 2023 6:59 pm
lol. You think being 'left-wing' means being against organised labour.
Your understanding really is curious.

One day, I may be able to decipher what you mean, but watch the media bias unfold, predictably, with regards to the establishment-friendly CAHN
Really? A Truckers Protest is organised labour. The 'left-wing' are not against this - in fact we're for even more of it - so this can't be what singles the media's reaction to the protest as 'left-wing' or make the govt lefties for apparently 'breaking up the truckers protest'.

Cross-border US/CA vaccine restrictions were said to be impacting trucker's livelihoods, and the govt didn't seem to want to do anything about it, so the story goes that they organised a protest. "Good on them" a lefty might say. Unfortunately, the Canadian Trucking Alliance, which represents the haulage industry, and union leaders representing long-haul drivers condemned the protest, with the CTA stating that most of the protesters actually had no connection to trucking - because it wasn't about truckers or trucking but about vaccines, organised by Canadian Unity.
Huh.
I wonder how they got so many trucks then. Weird.

Anyway, we'll see how the CAHN is treated in the media. It should go predictably, if there is a biased media to watch.

In other news, reputable media blames James O'Keefe for the suspension of operations at PV, while not reporting on what O'Keefe has said about it.

That should help them to look unbiased!
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Post by Cunt » Fri Sep 22, 2023 8:33 pm

What EVER could have set the biased part of the corporate press against O'Keefe...?
https://t.me/OKeefeMediaGroup/587
James O'Keefe, Eric Cochran, Spencer Meads, the three former Project Veritas journalists raided by the FBI regarding the Ashley Biden Diary - announce they are teaming up with the nonprofit legal defense fund, Private Citizen.

This comes on the heels of Project Veritas announcing it is no longer indemnyfing the three journalists. Private Citizen needs to raise money to pay our legal defense bills with the FBI raid, since PV spent the millions and millions of dollars O'Keefe Raised.
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