All Things Trump: the story continues...

[Sean Hayden]

I read it was wrapped up in 20 minutes. --just like any other defendant

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As for pessimism --maybe-- but I'm definitely grateful he is being prosecuted. I believe it will make pursuing justice in the US somewhat less perilous going forward.

[Tero]

Trump is about 6'1". At 239 lb he is...obese.

Trump's weight was listed as 239 pounds in his 2018 physical examination by then-White House Physician Ronnie Jackson, who now serves in the U.S. House of Representatives.

but only mid range obese.
https://www.cancer.org/cancer/risk-prev ... t-bmi.html

[Brian Peacock]

After all the things he's done, threatened to do, and would do if given half a chance, we have to settle for... fat shaming?

[Tero]

Trump not qualified to run? It has to go state by state. He will be pulled from each state ballot.

https://thehill.com/regulation/court-ba ... tid=Zxz2cZ

[L'Emmerdeur]

After all the things he's done, threatened to do, and would do if given half a chance, we have to settle for... fat shaming?

Dishonesty shaming, I think. 6'3" (190 cm) and 215 lbs (97.5 kg / 15.4 stone) is patently false and anybody can see that. Low hanging fruit? Yes. Still deserves calling out. The man is a brazenly dishonest shitheel, and his petty in-your-face lies should not be given a pass any more than his more significant lies.

[L'Emmerdeur]

Meanwhile the Trump legal-eagle auxiliary corps is busy claiming that it was a perfect phone call after all.

'Jonathan Turley’s deceptive Trump defense'

At one point, Turley took issue with the way Fulton County, Ga., District Attorney Fani T. Willis characterized an infamous phone call that Trump placed to Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger on Jan. 2, 2021.

“The way she portrayed that phone call to Raffensperger I think is really evidence of the bias and unfairness of aspects of this indictment,” Turley argued. “You know, it makes perfect sense when you’re challenging an election to say, you know, I only need around 11,000 votes. So if you do a statewide review, that’s not a lot in a state like Georgia. That’s not criminal. That’s making a case for a recount.”

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But Trump wasn’t asking Raffensperger for a recount. There was no reason to do so, as Raffensperger pointed out to Trump in that call.

“We did a hand re-tally, a 100 percent re-tally of all the ballots, and compared them to what the machines said and came up with virtually the same result,” Raffensperger told the then-president. “Then we did the recount, and we got virtually the same result. So I guess we can probably take that off the table.”

This is true, of course. The state had already completed multiple reviews of the cast ballots, finding small shifts in the margin between Trump and Biden. Trump’s infamous plea that Raffensperger “find 11,780 votes, which is one more than we have” was using the final vote tally determined after those counts and recounts.

At no point in the conversation does Trump ask for a recount, mind you.

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When The Washington Post first reported the call between Trump and Raffensperger, one legal expert declared that the egregiousness of Trump’s demand was “breathtaking.” That expert was Jonathan Turley.

'Alan Dershowitz Says Trump Call To Brad Raffensperger Is "The Most Exculpatory Piece of Evidence"'

“The word ‘find’ has a dictionary meaning. It means they’re there, they’re there to be found. Just please look hard and look for them. That’s what we did in Florida. We thought there were enough votes that could put Gore over the top.”

Dershowitz noted that the lawyers representing then-Vice President Al Gore in the recounts and legal contests following the 2000 election also were seeking to find enough votes.

[Sean Hayden]

That’s a pretty good defense. It could convince people.

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What if they had magicked more votes? Who knows what they might have pulled off by now.

[L'Emmerdeur]

The only people it might convince don't need convincing in the first place.

[Sean Hayden]

You’re underestimating words with dictionary meanings…

[pErvinalia]

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[pErvinalia]

What the chicken nuggets in the microwave see at 3am in the morning.

[JimC]

[JimC]

In situations like this, the concept of intent is an important part of any legal argument. The connections between words spoken and intent are murky enough to provide endless legal battles. The BMW's of lawyers are paid for by this...

[Tero]

Elsewhere: The prosecution is expected to do fast work. Defense can drag it out IF it is to their benefit.

It is clearly stated in the Constitution that all trials are to be speedy.

-No, the Constitution does not say that.

In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to a speedy and public trial …

-In other words, the prosecution is expected to have their case ready to roll when the arraignment is handed down. The defense, however, is allowed to drag their feet, as they have not had as much time to prepare. “Right” remains optional, WRT the subject.

[Tero]

https://www.threads.net/@aaron.rupar/po ... IwNjQ2YQ==

LMAO -- Ramaswamy says Mike Pence should've used the opportunity on January 6 to unilaterally implement universal single-day voting and voter ID. Beyond parody.