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Post by macdoc » Fri Oct 01, 2021 6:39 am

pretty permanent state of affairs....boosters to the future :( https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101 ... 1.full.pdf
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Post by Brian Peacock » Fri Oct 01, 2021 7:54 am

My mum had her flu jab and a Pfizer booster yesterday.
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Post by pErvinalia » Fri Oct 01, 2021 7:59 am

They don't do the covid shot within 3(?) weeks of the flu shot here.
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Post by NineBerry » Fri Oct 01, 2021 11:10 am

Actually, the German anti-maskers / anti-vaccers have a tendency to publish videos with speeches from while they are driving their cars. They seem to be busy people who don't have a lot of free time so need to use that time to address their followers. In the videos you can see that most of them don't use seat-belts while driving and commit other dangerous acts while driving...

Here is an example: https://twitter.com/NineBerry/status/13 ... 6744781825 (Video)

She is peeling an orange while driving on the Autobahn, has the seat-belt on incorrectly, then crosses a red traffic-light while driving, then crosses a red traffic-light as a pedestrian...

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Post by Scot Dutchy » Sat Oct 02, 2021 7:26 am

Yep great decisions:

How Melbourne’s ‘short, sharp’ Covid lockdowns became the longest in the world
Calla Wahlquist wrote:Australia’s second-largest city’s strategy has left it economically and psychologically depressed after initially succeeding in reducing case numbers to zero

It has been a long 19 months in Melbourne. As of Tuesday 5 October, Australia’s second-largest city will have been in lockdown for 246 days – overtaking Buenos Aires as the city that has spent the most cumulative days under stay-at-home orders.

By the time Melbourne’s current lockdown lifts at the end of the month, it will have spent 267 days in lockdown – 45% of the time since the coronavirus pandemic was declared on 12 March 2020.

It’s a strategy that has left the city feeling economically and psychologically depressed, but it has also succeeded, five times in a row, in reducing case numbers to zero.

But in Melbourne’s sixth lockdown the Victorian premier, Daniel Andrews, has formally abandoned hopes of getting to zero daily cases, replacing it with a goal of getting at least 80% of Victorians over the age of 16 double vaccinated.

Lockdown will lift once the vaccination rate gets to 70%, expected around 26 October. Support for the Victorian government’s handling of the pandemic is waning. Last week’s Essential poll for Guardian Australia found approval of the Andrews government had dropped to 44%.

Compliance with the strict restrictions is also waning. Parties held over the weekend of the AFL grand final – which was moved from Melbourne to the persistently covid-free city of Perth – led to a 50% spike in cases on Thursday, for a record daily figure of 1,438. A further 1,143 cases were recorded on Friday, as the premier extended vaccine mandates to more than a million workers.

Speak to Melburnians and the overwhelming majority say they support the decision of the Andrews government to lock down hard at the first signs of an outbreak.

But opposition to the health measures, while still a minority movement, is growing and has erupted onto the streets. Five thousand people joined a violent omnibus protest last week, fuelled by far-right figures. The protests started outside the offices of the construction industry union on Monday and roamed around the city on Tuesday before ending up at the Shrine of Remembrance, a memorial to Australian soldiers, on Wednesday.

They rallied against vaccine mandates, a two-week shutdown of construction, and the lockdown in general. There were hundreds of arrests and warnings of a super-spreader event, with union staff who responded to the protesters sent into quarantine.

The protests shook a city that was already at the end of its tether, and was then literally shaken by a 5.9 magnitude earthquake.

Victoria’s chief health officer, Prof Brett Sutton, quipped on Twitter: “No more horses of the apocalypse, please”. The city has had enough.
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Post by DRSB » Sat Oct 02, 2021 10:13 am

In Switzerland, you can earn 50 Franks by persuading someone to get the vax. I think I am entitled as well since I persuaded myself but no, this does not count.

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Post by NineBerry » Sat Oct 02, 2021 10:31 am

DRSB wrote:
Sat Oct 02, 2021 10:13 am
In Switzerland, you can earn 50 Franks by persuading someone to get the vax. I think I am entitled as well since I persuaded myself but no, this does not count.
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Post by DRSB » Sat Oct 02, 2021 10:44 am

NineBerry wrote:
Sat Oct 02, 2021 10:31 am
DRSB wrote:
Sat Oct 02, 2021 10:13 am
In Switzerland, you can earn 50 Franks by persuading someone to get the vax. I think I am entitled as well since I persuaded myself but no, this does not count.
In Switzerland that is enough to buy a BigMac
You mean the government must increase the bait?

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Post by NineBerry » Sat Oct 02, 2021 10:45 am

DRSB wrote:
Sat Oct 02, 2021 10:44 am
NineBerry wrote:
Sat Oct 02, 2021 10:31 am
DRSB wrote:
Sat Oct 02, 2021 10:13 am
In Switzerland, you can earn 50 Franks by persuading someone to get the vax. I think I am entitled as well since I persuaded myself but no, this does not count.
In Switzerland that is enough to buy a BigMac
You mean the government must increase the bait?
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Post by DRSB » Sat Oct 02, 2021 10:53 am

Well, you can have a plate of spaghetti with a salad and a bottle of water for 50 franks. But honestly, I think the government is desperate because they messed up the information policy early in the game.

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Post by Tero » Sat Oct 02, 2021 11:02 am

The drug store in the grocery store makes some money from the government for giving the shots, because I got a 10 dollar gift card.

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Post by Tero » Sat Oct 02, 2021 11:37 pm

The failure of the Merck drug to do much anything in advanced disease is a bit of a red flag. The study has not been published yet but was a rather small number of patients.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Molnupiravir

If it were not a drug already (for ebola), no company board would develop a drug that does not work through the course of the disease.

Tamiflu is sort of in that category. If the flu is going to kill you, this won't stop it.
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Re: The Coronavirus Thread

Post by Scot Dutchy » Sun Oct 03, 2021 7:59 am

What is happening down under:

New Zealand widens Covid lockdown as Delta spreads outside Auckland
Jacinda Ardern puts parts of Waikato into five-day lockdown while country’s largest city records 32 new cases

New Zealand’s Delta Covid variant outbreak has spread beyond Auckland, prompting the prime minister, Jacinda Ardern, to put additional regions into a snap lockdown.

There were 32 new coronavirus cases on Sunday in the country’s largest city, which has been in lockdown since mid-August, and two cases in the Waikato region, some 147km (91 miles) south of Auckland. Ardern announced on Sunday that parts of the region will go into a five-day lockdown.

She added that the government will decide on Monday whether Auckland’s 1.7 million residents will remain sealed off from the rest of New Zealand.

NSW reports ‘dramatic drop’ in new Covid cases as Melbourne edges closer to world’s longest lockdown
Dr Kerry Chant warns next week is ‘critical’ for state as Victoria and ACT see slight declines in numbers

Victoria’s Covid infections have dropped slightly with Melbourne’s 246-day lockdown to become the world’s longest on Tuesday.

And while New South Wales recorded a substantial drop in local Covid-19 cases on Sunday, the state continued to see a rise in Covid-related hospitalisations and deaths.

Victoria reported 1,220 new locally acquired coronavirus cases on Sunday, down from 1,488 the previous day, and three deaths: a man in his 50s, a woman in her 70s, and a man in his 80s.
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Re: The Coronavirus Thread

Post by JimC » Sun Oct 03, 2021 8:03 am

We are vaccinating quite rapidly now, but as you well know, we started late due to an incompetent federal government. Another few weeks will see vaccination levels high enough to begin relaxing the restrictions.
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