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Re: Media Bias

Post by rainbow » Tue Aug 17, 2021 10:18 am

Cunt wrote:
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How do we define bias?

https://aibrt.org/index.php/internet-studies

This guy Epstein talks about it but never shows how it's measured.
...and if it can be measured then how can one determine that the methodology for detecting bias is not biased.

:ask: Forgive a forgetful African if this topic has already been covered in this thread.
I think a reasonable method is to identify a Dem/Rep dividing issue, and see how rules are applied around it. Free speech vs hate speech, for an example.
Nope, that doesn't even begin to answer my question.

Hint. If it was too difficult for you, just say: "fuck knows".
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Re: Media Bias

Post by Cunt » Tue Aug 17, 2021 2:12 pm

rainbow wrote:
Tue Aug 17, 2021 10:18 am
Cunt wrote:
Sun Aug 15, 2021 12:39 pm
rainbow wrote:
Sun Aug 15, 2021 8:35 am
How do we define bias?

https://aibrt.org/index.php/internet-studies

This guy Epstein talks about it but never shows how it's measured.
...and if it can be measured then how can one determine that the methodology for detecting bias is not biased.

:ask: Forgive a forgetful African if this topic has already been covered in this thread.
I think a reasonable method is to identify a Dem/Rep dividing issue, and see how rules are applied around it. Free speech vs hate speech, for an example.
Nope, that doesn't even begin to answer my question.

Hint. If it was too difficult for you, just say: "fuck knows".
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It's too difficult for you, obviously.

I know when corporate media unifies to suppress an idea, they are showing their bias clearly. Like when they all suppressed the Hunter Biden laptop story until the election was complete.

If you can't see that as media bias, it might be because you liked it.
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Re: Media Bias

Post by rainbow » Tue Aug 17, 2021 2:44 pm

Cunt wrote:
Tue Aug 17, 2021 2:12 pm
rainbow wrote:
Tue Aug 17, 2021 10:18 am
Cunt wrote:
Sun Aug 15, 2021 12:39 pm
rainbow wrote:
Sun Aug 15, 2021 8:35 am
How do we define bias?

https://aibrt.org/index.php/internet-studies

This guy Epstein talks about it but never shows how it's measured.
...and if it can be measured then how can one determine that the methodology for detecting bias is not biased.

:ask: Forgive a forgetful African if this topic has already been covered in this thread.
I think a reasonable method is to identify a Dem/Rep dividing issue, and see how rules are applied around it. Free speech vs hate speech, for an example.
Nope, that doesn't even begin to answer my question.

Hint. If it was too difficult for you, just say: "fuck knows".
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It's too difficult for you, obviously.
No not obviously. I work on clear assumptions. If you claim bias, tell me how you define your terms.
...but it seems you can't.
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Re: Media Bias

Post by Cunt » Tue Aug 17, 2021 3:43 pm

I can say that those supporting the suppression of the news story (Hunter Laptop) until after the election were acting in a biased way.

You can't see it, but that's ok. I understand your reluctance.

In more relevant news, Trump is back on twitter!

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Re: Media Bias

Post by Hermit » Tue Aug 17, 2021 4:24 pm

Cunt wrote:
Tue Aug 17, 2021 3:43 pm
I can say that those supporting the suppression of the news story (Hunter Laptop) until after the election were acting in a biased way.

You can't see it, but that's ok. I understand your reluctance.
The suppression consisted of the fact that the contents of the hard drive from the laptop allegedly belonging to Hunter Biden was passed on to Rudy Giuliani, The Washington Post and nobody else. It's kind of difficult to write about "the news story" without having some substantiable information at hand. It also makes the claims regarding it suspect, especially when the same sources push other untruths, such as allegations regarding a "stolen election".

Cunt wrote:
Tue Aug 17, 2021 3:43 pm
In more relevant news, Trump is back on twitter!

https://babylonbee.com/news/trump-allow ... n=telegram
U.S.—Trump has been allowed back on Twitter after disguising himself as one Donhammed Trumpistan, a newly hired spokesperson for the Taliban.
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Re: Media Bias

Post by Brian Peacock » Tue Aug 17, 2021 5:19 pm


Cunt wrote:I can say that those supporting the suppression of the news story (Hunter Laptop) until after the election were acting in a biased way.

You can't see it, but that's ok. I understand your reluctance.

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Sounds like you'd favour a news media with a statutory obligation to be politically neutral. Do you?

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Re: Media Bias

Post by Joe » Tue Aug 17, 2021 5:21 pm

At least the story wasn't suppressed here. I remember discussion of the laptop and emails in at least two threads before the election. :coffee:
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Re: Media Bias

Post by Cunt » Tue Aug 17, 2021 5:54 pm

Hermit wrote:
Tue Aug 17, 2021 4:24 pm
Cunt wrote:
Tue Aug 17, 2021 3:43 pm
I can say that those supporting the suppression of the news story (Hunter Laptop) until after the election were acting in a biased way.

You can't see it, but that's ok. I understand your reluctance.
The suppression consisted of the fact that the contents of the hard drive from the laptop allegedly belonging to Hunter Biden was passed on to Rudy Giuliani, The Washington Post and nobody else. It's kind of difficult to write about "the news story" without having some substantiable information at hand. It also makes the claims regarding it suspect, especially when the same sources push other untruths, such as allegations regarding a "stolen election".

Cunt wrote:
Tue Aug 17, 2021 3:43 pm
In more relevant news, Trump is back on twitter!

https://babylonbee.com/news/trump-allow ... n=telegram
U.S.—Trump has been allowed back on Twitter after disguising himself as one Donhammed Trumpistan, a newly hired spokesperson for the Taliban.
:lol:
It's cute that you think you know the story.

Of course, your version relies on there not being heaps of photos and videos, corroboration from others connected to the emails, and a complete failure to deny it by anyone in the Biden family.

Now they are up to what? 3 laptops lost? It's a bit unclear how many Hunter talked about in the video. Of course, switch to the song about how he isn't in government.

His art is REALLY selling for that much. It isn't open corruption at ALL.
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Re: Media Bias

Post by Cunt » Tue Aug 17, 2021 6:30 pm

I think he is suggesting that whatsapp/facebook should get 'Parler'd'

https://gab.com/a/posts/106772032179048333
Facebook’s WhatsApp was essential to the Taliban taking control of Afghanistan? So they will be banned from App Stores now and attacked by the media right?
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The social media support of insurrectionists/terrorists will show their bias. My guess is that the App store won't take any measures against facebook. Their bia$ won't allow it.
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Re: Media Bias

Post by Brian Peacock » Tue Aug 17, 2021 7:12 pm

Tell me what an unbiased media looks like.
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Re: Media Bias

Post by Cunt » Tue Aug 17, 2021 7:47 pm

Brian Peacock wrote:
Tue Aug 17, 2021 7:12 pm
Tell me what an unbiased media looks like.
I don't think there is one.

I doubt any people are, either.

Lots of liars pretending to be unbiased though. Those are usually highly paid in corporate/government communications departments.
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Re: Media Bias

Post by Brian Peacock » Tue Aug 17, 2021 7:51 pm

I don't disagree. But you only complain about one kind of bias from one side. Why is that?
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Re: Media Bias

Post by Cunt » Tue Aug 17, 2021 9:06 pm

Because same as you - I'm biased.

Back when the left seemed the side of free speech, I was on their side. Now, 'free-speech' is firmly on the right. I still don't like religion, anti-abortion nuttery, or that stale little chip of eucharist, but I don't mind being in agreement with freedom for individuals.

The media MUST keep the censorship on, because the ideas they like pu$hing (for whatever rea$on$) can't stand much interrogation, dissent or satirizing.
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Re: Media Bias

Post by Seabass » Tue Aug 17, 2021 9:29 pm

Cunt wrote:
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Now, 'free-speech' is firmly on the right.
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Re: Media Bias

Post by Seabass » Tue Aug 17, 2021 10:55 pm

I'm sure our resident champion of unbiased and objective media and fierce critic of biased media will be horrified to know that the MSM outlet Fox News is blatantly playing kingmaker in US politics.
Inside Fox News, DeSantis is ‘the future of the party.’ And he’s taking advantage.


Early in Florida’s vaccine rollout, during a period marked by confusion and images of seniors in long lines desperate for a shot, Gov. Ron DeSantis’ office devised a pitch to air a more flattering view. In mid-January, his staff took the idea to Fox News.

The timing was perfect. Producers for Fox & Friends, the network’s top-rated cable morning news show, were already inquiring about DeSantis’ availability.

A plan came together in a flurry of emails and phone calls over several days. DeSantis’ team provided a senior, a location and the talking points. Fox News would bring the cameras and its audience. No other media would be allowed in.

When Fox & Friends viewers tuned in Jan. 22, they heard applause live from St. Petersburg as a 100-year-old World War II veteran received his first coronavirus vaccine. Standing nearby, DeSantis cracked jokes about the senior’s good looks and boasted that Florida was leading the country in vaccinating older residents.

“I honestly think he could host the show with the chops we saw from him at the vaccine site,” a Fox producer wrote afterward in an email to Meredith Beatrice, DeSantis’ deputy director for communications at the time.

The details of this staged news event were captured in four months of emails between Fox and DeSantis’ office, obtained by the Tampa Bay Times through a records request. The correspondences, which totaled 1,250 pages, lay bare how DeSantis has wielded the country’s largest conservative megaphone and show a striking effort by Fox to inflate the Republican’s profile.

From the week of the 2020 election through February, the network asked DeSantis to appear on its airwaves 113 times, or nearly once a day. Sometimes, the requests came in bunches — four, five, even six emails in a matter of hours from producers who punctuated their overtures with flattery. (“The governor spoke wonderfully at CPAC,” one producer wrote in March.)

There are few surprises when DeSantis goes live with Fox. “Exclusive” events like Jan. 22 are carefully crafted with guidance from DeSantis’ team. Topics, talking points and even graphics are shared in advance.

Once, a Fox producer offered to let DeSantis pick the subject matter if he agreed to come on.

By turning to DeSantis to fill the many hours of airtime once devoted to former President Donald Trump, Fox has made Florida’s hard-charging leader one of the country’s most recognizable Republicans. That has given DeSantis a leg up on others who may seek the party’s nomination for president in 2024. A recent nationwide poll of Republican voters put DeSantis atop the field if Trump doesn’t run again. No other prospective candidate was close.

“He’s been given the first Fox audition for 2024, which also means he gets to set the bar,” said Adam Goodman, a veteran Republican media strategist. “That means all the other competitors, when they have their chance to have their day on Fox, there’s a measuring stick that they’re going to be up against, and that’s the governor of Florida.”
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