Republicans: continued

[Tero]

Right winger blog fails to state that the national IDs are free, and are in many cases the healthcare card as well.

Of 47 nations surveyed in Europe -- a place where, on other matters, American progressives often look to with envy -- all but one country requires a government-issued photo voter ID to vote. The exception is the U.K., and even there voter IDs are mandatory in Northern Ireland for all elections and in parts of England for local elections. Moreover, Boris Johnson’s government recently introduced legislation to have the rest of the country follow suit.

https://www.realclearinvestigations.com ... 78714.html

[Cunt]

https://canadianmale.wordpress.com/2021 ... isticated/

“Proponents of the vaccine are unwilling or unable to understand the thinking of vaccine skeptics — or even admit that skeptics may be thinking at all. Their attempts to answer skepticism or understand it end up poisoned by condescension, and end up reinforcing it.”

Of course, you should treat them like you would Republicans, rather than try to solve the problem...

I mean, if you wanted to stop the 'Rona, you might want to re-open the US southern border, traffic some of them to other states, and plan a door-to-door campaign to coerce or entice the remaining folks into taking the needle

[Tero]

Biden should just offer green cards to all that walk in and get vaccinated at the border.

[Cunt]

Biden should just offer green cards to all that walk in and get vaccinated at the border.

Do you mean for the Cubans currently under a brutal dictatorship?

Or just certain 'kinds' of migrants?

[Tero]

Don't matter. But you have to walk in. No paracutes, sailboats.

The ideal mix would be to take in one communist from the 800,000 in the party for every freedom seeker. That way we can keep Florida under control. They can fight each other down there. A gang for each group.

[Joe]

Biden should just offer green cards to all that walk in and get vaccinated at the border.

Do you mean for the Cubans currently under a brutal dictatorship?

Or just certain 'kinds' of migrants?

Cubans can't walk to the border. They're far enough south that the water doesn't freeze.

[Tero]

They can take a ship to...I forget...South of Costa Rica, then walk from there. In fact there are Cuban refugees attempting to walk thru there and Nicaragua.

Walk, like the rest of Shithole residents.

[Brian Peacock]

Anti-vaccination has been going strong for awhile now, and it's global.

Strength varies, but yes, opposition to vaccination is just about as old as vaccination itself, and it never quite disappeared.

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I bet the anti-fluoride lobby are spitting tacks that the anti-vaxxers are getting all the press coverage these days.

[JimC]

They should start a campaign to warn folks that the vaccines contain fluoride!

[Sean Hayden]

Anti-vaccination has been going strong for awhile now, and it's global.

Strength varies, but yes, opposition to vaccination is just about as old as vaccination itself, and it never quite disappeared.

Here is a cartoon published in 1802, six years after British doctor Edward Jenner demonstrated that an infection with the relatively mild cowpox virus conferred immunity against the deadly smallpox virus. Apparently, the vaccine makes those inoculated by it grow cow-like appendages.



One prominent anti-vaxxer was Mahatma Gandhi. He wrote a book titled A Guide to Health, a translation into English appeared in 1921. Part II, Chapter VI is about smallpox, in which he made his opinion about vaccination known. Part of it reads:

Vaccination is a barbarous practice, and it is one of the most fatal of all the delusions current in our time, not to be found even among the so-called savage races of the world. Its supporters are not content with its adoption by those who have no objection to it, but seek to impose it with the aid of penal laws and rigorous punishments on all people alike. The practice of vaccination is not very old, dating as it does from 1798 A.D. But, during this comparatively short period that has elapsed, millions have fallen a prey to the delusion that those who get themselves vaccinated are safe from the attack of small-pox. No one can say that small-pox will necessarily attack those who have not been vaccinated; for many cases have been observed of unvaccinated people being free from its attack. From the fact that some people who are not vaccinated do get the disease, we cannot, of course, conclude that they would have been immune if only they had got themselves vaccinated.

Moreover, vaccination is a very dirty process, for the serum which is introduced into the human body includes not only that of the cow, but also of the actual small-pox patient. An average man would even vomit at the mere sight of this stuff. If the hand happens to touch it, it is always washed with soap. The mere suggestion of tasting it fills us with indignation and disgust. But how few of those who get themselves vaccinated realise that they are in effect eating this filthy stuff! Most people know that, in several diseases, medicines and liquid food are injected into the blood, and that they are assimilated into the system more rapidly than if they were taken through the mouth. The only difference, in fact, between injection and the ordinary process of eating through the mouth is that the assimilation in the former case is instantaneous, while that in the latter is slow. And yet we do not shrink from getting ourselves vaccinated! As has been well said, cowards die a living death, and our craze for vaccination is solely due to the fear of death or disfigurement by small-pox.

I cannot also help feeling that vaccination is a violation of the dictates of religion and morality [...]

And here is a cartoon lampooning vaccine hesitancy. It was published in 1930

I'm guessing we'll find a fairly consistent amount of hesitation in the population across time and politics...

Neither is the case. I leave you to ponder the massive differences concerning the amount of hesitation in populations across time and politics as revealed by Ipsos polls done in December 2020 and February 2021.

Thanks for another thoughtful and informative post Hermit. The more I look into it the more Covid-19 vaccination looks like a special case. The relationship you pointed out earlier between votes for Biden/Harris and Covid-19 vaccines doesn't hold for other vaccines, and when I look into vaccination figures I run into things like this: "CDC: Vaccination Coverage of Children Remains High" and,

mmr_vaccines.jpg

which shows a fairly consistent rate of vaccination over time. It may be worth looking into the other vaccinations e.g. the flu jab promises to show the same thing.

[JimC]

The hard-core anti-vaxxers probably haven't changed in numbers, but what we may be seeing is an additional group on top of that, partly those with a natural degree of hesitancy given lurid media reports of side effects, and partly a group for whom vaccination against Covid (and mask wearing etc.) has become a political issue, rebelling at being told what to do by governments/scientists/progressives/elites...

[Sean Hayden]

That makes sense. Unfortunately Republican leadership is unlikely to stop what Trump started. I really think a lot of the momentum for so many to go this way on vaccines now is just the result of his attitude.

...maybe just remind them everytime that even Trump was vaccinated.

[Tero]

Yeah the Q people ran out of stuff, since we no longer eat babies. Vaccines!

[Cunt]

a natural degree of hesitancy given lurid media reports of side effects

I understand the facebooks and other social media giants, are censoring any news which might add to 'vaccine hesitancy'.

It makes me, and possibly others, a bit suspicious of the news that DOES leak through.

One interesting example, is how ivermectin is treated, with it's well-documented adverse reaction record, compared to how the vaccines are treated, with their (possibly shittier) record.

Until the censors are applying their rules with an even hand, they will continue to look like a branch of the party in power.

[L'Emmerdeur]

The Republicans are going to get to the bottom of it. The real guilty parties are the ones who didn't properly prepare the US Capitol to withstand being stormed by a mob of Trumpists. And whattabout Black Lives Matter?

'Republicans name Jim Jordan among GOP members for Capitol riot committee, reports say'

House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthyhas reportedly selected congressmen Jim Banks of Indiana, Jim Jordan of Ohio, Rodney Davis of Illinois, Kelly Armstrong of North Dakota and Troy Nehls of Texas as the Republican members for the select committee to investigate the January 6 riot at the Capitol, Politico reports.

Of the members, Mr Jordan, Mr Banks and Mr Nehls all voted to object to the election results in January. The riot was started in response to former President Donald Trump’s false claims that the election was stolen.

Mr Jordan is one of the hardline conservatives who helped start the then-insurgent House Freedom Caucus, the ranking Republican on the House Judiciary Committee and a vocal defender of the former president.

Mr Banks is chairman of the Republican Study Committee, which is the biggest caucus in the House GOP. He said he hopes to “force Democrats and the media” to answer questions they have ignored.

“Among them, why was the Capitol unprepared and vulnerable to attack on January 6,” Mr Banks said in a statement. Similarly, he said if Democrats truly cared about political violence, the investigation would focus on Black Lives Matter protests and the death of Capitol Police officer Billy Evans.

Noting here that Officer Evans was killed when Noah Green, whose brother described as suffering from 'hallucinations, heart palpitations, headaches and suicidal thoughts that could have been related to drugs or mental illness,' rammed his car into a Capitol protective barricade. It seems significant in this context that Green happens to have been a black man.