The Coronavirus Thread

[Scot Dutchy]

Japan's population density c.355 people/km², with the Netherlands being c.410 people/km². However, Japanese conurbations are significantly more densely populated than NL, with Tokyo for example seeing around 6000 people/km². So the population density is both lower overall in Japan than the Netherlands but also higher in the cities. Population density is primarily a factor in the speed a contagion spreads buts says very little about its lethality.

Also the country's geographic plays a role plus in Japan all government data is considered state secrets. It is not an open society.

[Hermit]

Bloody Ozland and Fernland are so far away but even they cant control it with the present regimes of lockdown and mask wearing...

You're confusing control with eradication, Scotty. Let's look at the situation in terms of deaths per million in habitants and total infections per million inhabitants.

Counties where the pandemic is out of control:

USA             1,028    59,029 
Sweden          817    39,095
Netherlands    641    44,480

Counties where the pandemic is under control:

New Zealand      5       429
Japan               25    1,721     
Australia          35    1,104

Once again cherry picking. Keep going. Who says they are out of control? You?
You lot have trouble controlling a population density of 5 sheeple per sqkm and only 5 slightly urban areas hundreds of kilometres apart. Never mind Fernland it has two very slightly urban areas with a density of 15 sheeple per sqkm.
But you just love making these ridiculous comparisons in your pissing up the wall games.

[Seabass]

Japan's population density c.355 people/km², with the Netherlands being c.410 people/km². However, Japanese conurbations are significantly more densely populated than NL, with Tokyo for example seeing around 6000 people/km². So the population density is both lower overall in Japan than the Netherlands but also higher in the cities. Population density is primarily a factor in the speed a contagion spreads buts says very little about its lethality.

That's a fair apples to apples comparison for cherry picked data, Brian.

I don't know what to compare New Zealand with, but do you think Canada would be a decent comparison with Australia? It's less populous and has lower population density, and yet has 399 deaths and 14,647 case per million according to Worldometer, which suggests Straya's control measures are pretty effective.

Definitely not a fair comparison. Unfortunately for Canada, it shares a border with the US.

[Joe]

Japan's population density c.355 people/km², with the Netherlands being c.410 people/km². However, Japanese conurbations are significantly more densely populated than NL, with Tokyo for example seeing around 6000 people/km². So the population density is both lower overall in Japan than the Netherlands but also higher in the cities. Population density is primarily a factor in the speed a contagion spreads buts says very little about its lethality.

That's a fair apples to apples comparison for cherry picked data, Brian.

I don't know what to compare New Zealand with, but do you think Canada would be a decent comparison with Australia? It's less populous and has lower population density, and yet has 399 deaths and 14,647 case per million according to Worldometer, which suggests Straya's control measures are pretty effective.

Definitely not a fair comparison. Unfortunately for Canada, it shares a border with the US.

Ah, bad neighborhood. Good point!

[Hermit]

Japan's population density c.355 people/km², with the Netherlands being c.410 people/km². However, Japanese conurbations are significantly more densely populated than NL, with Tokyo for example seeing around 6000 people/km². So the population density is both lower overall in Japan than the Netherlands but also higher in the cities. Population density is primarily a factor in the speed a contagion spreads buts says very little about its lethality.

That's a fair apples to apples comparison for cherry picked data, Brian.

I don't know what to compare New Zealand with, but do you think Canada would be a decent comparison with Australia? It's less populous and has lower population density, and yet has 399 deaths and 14,647 case per million according to Worldometer, which suggests Straya's control measures are pretty effective.

Definitely not a fair comparison. Unfortunately for Canada, it shares a border with the US.

Give the Canucks some credit, Yankee. They're still successful at stemming the tide.

[Cunt]

Even one death by corona is too many. Everything should stay locked, until Bill Gates, Tony Fauci and Jack Dorsey say we are safe to come out again.

[Hermit]

Even one death by corona is too many. Everything should stay locked, until Bill Gates, Tony Fauci and Jack Dorsey say we are safe to come out again.

The all clear will be sounded after everyone has been vaccinated with the 5G chip.

[Scot Dutchy]

Japan's population density c.355 people/km², with the Netherlands being c.410 people/km². However, Japanese conurbations are significantly more densely populated than NL, with Tokyo for example seeing around 6000 people/km². So the population density is both lower overall in Japan than the Netherlands but also higher in the cities. Population density is primarily a factor in the speed a contagion spreads buts says very little about its lethality.

That's a fair apples to apples comparison for cherry picked data, Brian.

I don't know what to compare New Zealand with, but do you think Canada would be a decent comparison with Australia? It's less populous and has lower population density, and yet has 399 deaths and 14,647 case per million according to Worldometer, which suggests Straya's control measures are pretty effective.

Definitely not a fair comparison. Unfortunately for Canada, it shares a border with the US.

You cant compare any country to another which is why Hermit's pissing contests up the wall are useless as only your shoes get wet.

[Cunt]

The proper science agrees with all the billionaires, so why would you doubt it?

[Seabass]

Everything should stay locked, until Bill Gates, Tony Fauci and Jack Dorsey say we are safe to come out again.

What, not the heavily armed phở woman?

[Cunt]

Oh, I'd LISTEN to her, let me tell ya!

[Scot Dutchy]

The paranoia just cant be left to die down. (no it is not about control) Who is fucking kidding who? Another boy and wolf story without the wolf.

WHO warns Covid-19 pandemic is 'not necessarily the big one'

Experts tell end of year media briefing that virus is likely to become endemic and the world will have to learn to live with it

World Health Organization experts have warned that even though the coronavirus pandemic has been very severe, it is “not necessarily the big one”, and that the world will have to learn to live with Covid-19.

The “destiny” of the virus is to become endemic, even as vaccines begin to be rolled out in the US and UK, says Professor David Heymann, the chair of the WHO’s strategic and technical advisory group for infectious hazards.

“The world has hoped for herd immunity, that somehow transmission would be decreased if enough persons were immune,” he told the WHO’s final media briefing for 2020.

And we all know you can trust the WHO when it comes to somewhere near the truth.

[Cunt]

Aren't they, like the UN, run by China?

[Joe]

Japan's population density c.355 people/km², with the Netherlands being c.410 people/km². However, Japanese conurbations are significantly more densely populated than NL, with Tokyo for example seeing around 6000 people/km². So the population density is both lower overall in Japan than the Netherlands but also higher in the cities. Population density is primarily a factor in the speed a contagion spreads buts says very little about its lethality.

That's a fair apples to apples comparison for cherry picked data, Brian.

I don't know what to compare New Zealand with, but do you think Canada would be a decent comparison with Australia? It's less populous and has lower population density, and yet has 399 deaths and 14,647 case per million according to Worldometer, which suggests Straya's control measures are pretty effective.

Definitely not a fair comparison. Unfortunately for Canada, it shares a border with the US.

You cant compare any country to another which is why Hermit's pissing contests up the wall are useless as only your shoes get wet.

Sure you can. Policy makers do it all the time and rightfully so. If we believe this assertion, then the US healthcare system, with it's egregious inequality and cost, is just a natural function of the country's character. Comparisons to other countries put the lie to that, and provide support for American reformers.

As for Hermit's numbers, the order of magnitude difference between Australia, New Zealand, and Japan's numbers and those of other countries is very hard to attribute solely to national differences. Without strong evidence to the contrary, he's right that their policies have the situation under control when compared to other developed countries.

[Cunt]

How did they do on AIDS?

Seriously. If they are, for some reason, a more compliant population in regards to disease measures, is it reflected there? Did the population change somehow since?

I'm not too sure how big a difference it is, but it looks like you all are convinced that it is VERY significant, so shouldn't it show in other ways?