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Re: US Election 2020

Post by Scot Dutchy » Sat Dec 19, 2020 6:05 pm

Trump raised $200m from false election claims. What happens to the money now?
The president could use the funds to ensure he and his allies remain a powerful force in US politics


The battle is lost. The supreme court and electoral college have spoken. Even the Senate majority leader, Mitch McConnell, so adept at remaking the rules for political advantage, has acknowledged that Donald Trump will not be the next president.

But the money flowing into Trump’s political coffers suggests that defeat will not drive the soon-to-be-former president into the political shadows.

Trump has been on a fundraising drive since the election, rapidly bringing in an astonishing $200m or more on the back of his false claims that the vote was rigged.

His campaign bombarded supporters with emails and text messages – as many as 30 a day – pleading for donations to a fighting fund to challenge the result. But with the election settled, that is not where the money is going.

Most of the cash is directed to Save America, an organisation formed as a leadership political action committee (Pac) shortly after the election. Leadership Pacs were designed to allow individuals to raise money in support of a favoured candidate and Trump cannot legally use the proceeds to directly fund a run for office himself, such as another bid for the presidency in four years.

But Brendan Fischer, a campaign finance specialist at the Campaign Legal Center, said Trump’s fundraising was unprecedented and evidence of undimmed political ambition.

“I can think of no other president who has set up a leadership PAC immediately after losing an election and begun fundraising for it furiously. This is entirely, entirely unique,” he said.

“I think it’s basically going to be the vehicle for Trump’s post-White House political operation.”

Trump raised the money in a blitz of appeals for donations to what was billed as an “official election defense fund” without clear mention of Save America. An aggressive sales pitch was built around the president’s false claims that the election was rigged – even as one legal challenge after another was struck down.

“We need YOUR HELP to DEFEND the integrity of our Election,” said one email.

Another email carried the subject line: “The Recount Results were BOGUS.”
Why are not the police looking into this fraud?
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Re: US Election 2020

Post by Brian Peacock » Sat Dec 19, 2020 6:19 pm

Give me $20 and I'll tell you. :tea:
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Re: US Election 2020

Post by Tero » Sat Dec 19, 2020 9:54 pm

Fox news forced to admit some of its hosts were spreading BS about elections
https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/19/business ... index.html

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Re: US Election 2020

Post by Cunt » Sat Dec 19, 2020 10:14 pm

Giuliani makes a better case than does CNN.

One of his claims is that no court has heard his evidence or claims. Maybe no-one here has either.

If you want to, you can find a summary here:
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Re: US Election 2020

Post by Tero » Sat Dec 19, 2020 10:16 pm

I don't do podcasts. While typing, I have baroque music or the TV on. On MSNBC.

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Re: US Election 2020

Post by Tero » Sat Dec 19, 2020 10:22 pm

Numerous congressmen have stepped up to challenge the election. Those are the riff raff of politics. Even though we have Cruz and McConnel, there is still some prestige in being a senator. It will be tough to get a senator in on a scheme that is likely to fail within hours. Plus all of Congress has to hang around an extra half day if they do.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/pol ... 940115001/
In the House, U.S. Rep. Mo Brooks is leading an effort to reject Biden's Electoral College victory. The congressman has said he wants to reject the electoral votes certified by states such as Georgia and Pennsylvania that had "flawed election systems."

Any objections Jan. 6 would require support from one House member and one senator to be considered. The two chambers would meet separately to vote on any disputes.

During a private call Tuesday to GOP caucus members, NBC and Politico reported, McConnell warned Republican senators not to object to the election results on Jan. 6. Doing so, he told them, would force Republicans to take a "terrible vote" by voting down the objection and thus appearing against Trump.
The reason it fails is because the house will not pass a vote to throw out the electors. You need both house and senate to pass it. GOP Senators also would look ridiculous if they all voted to throw out the election. It is doomed.

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Re: US Election 2020

Post by Cunt » Sat Dec 19, 2020 10:27 pm

It looks like USAToday hasn't heard Guiliani's podcast either.

If he is mad, then it is a very interesting descent into madness, and someone should make a reality TV show out of it.
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Re: US Election 2020

Post by Tero » Sat Dec 19, 2020 10:50 pm

I have news for you: the election is over. Trump is history, Giuliani is history.

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Re: US Election 2020

Post by Cunt » Sat Dec 19, 2020 10:54 pm

Yes, I should simply believe you, and everyone else who refuses to look at the evidence presented by the best organized crime prosecutor on the planet.

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Re: US Election 2020

Post by JimC » Sat Dec 19, 2020 10:58 pm

Cunt wrote:
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...the best organized crime prosecutor on the planet...
:funny:

He sure organised that press conference outside the garden centre with aplomb... :tea:
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Re: US Election 2020

Post by Tero » Sat Dec 19, 2020 10:59 pm

LOL
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Post by pErvinalia » Sat Dec 19, 2020 11:02 pm

He definitely isn't the sharpest knife in the drawer.
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Re: US Election 2020

Post by Tero » Sat Dec 19, 2020 11:18 pm

Trump encouraging riots in Jan.
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Re: US Election 2020

Post by Brian Peacock » Sat Dec 19, 2020 11:40 pm

Not the Onion.

Trump considers Sidney Powell for role of special counsel overseeing an investigation into voter fraud.
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Post by Cunt » Sun Dec 20, 2020 12:18 am

JimC wrote:
Sat Dec 19, 2020 10:58 pm
Cunt wrote:
Sat Dec 19, 2020 10:54 pm
...the best organized crime prosecutor on the planet...
:funny:

He sure organised that press conference outside the garden centre with aplomb... :tea:
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