The Coronavirus Thread

[Scot Dutchy]

It is well organised in Ozland:

The Sydney to Hobart yacht race appears likely to be cancelled or postponed for the first time in 75 years after Tasmania imposed a 14-day quarantine on all arrivals from Sydney.

Race organisers were on Saturday morning still doggedly pushing ahead with plans for the Boxing Day start despite the serious implications of the outbreak of Covid-19 in Sydney’s northern beaches suburbs.

About 150 sailors registered for the event – a third of the fleet’s crew – are locked down in that hotspot area and not allowed to travel to Tasmania. However, the escalation of health orders in Tasmania later in the day, quarantining all arrivals from Sydney, heaped further pressure on the race.

On Saturday evening the Tasmanian premier, Peter Gutwein, said the future of the 2020 race remained with organisers but conceded it would be hard to go ahead with it now, with no quarantine exception to be made for race entrants.

Yep all under control. Surely the governments and organisers would have spoken to each other months ago.

[Brian Peacock]

I'm finding it difficult to discern your point Scott. You accept that Covid is a serious matter for public health, and dealing with it is a complex social and political issue and a difficult technical challenge, surely?

[Hermit]

Australia losing grip again even with all those masks.

The northern beaches area of Sydney entered a four-day lockdown to midnight on Wednesday as authorities try to contain a Covid-19 outbreak ahead of Christmas.
Twenty-three new Covid-19 cases were confirmed in the Australian state of New South Wales, 21 of those so far linked to the new northern beaches outbreak. The state’s premier, Gladys Berejiklian, warned further restrictions for the rest of Sydney were possible on Sunday if the outbreak appeared more widespread.
The Australian states of Victoria, Queensland and Tasmania imposed new travel rules for people arriving in their states from New South Wales and urged their residents not to travel there.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/ ... 19-cluster

Um, yeah. Australia (population 25.6 million) had 46 new cases in the past three days. Out of control. Netherlands (population 17.2 million) had 35,879 new cases in the past three days. Admirably under control.

[pErvinalia]

Australia losing grip again even with all those masks.

The northern beaches area of Sydney entered a four-day lockdown to midnight on Wednesday as authorities try to contain a Covid-19 outbreak ahead of Christmas.
Twenty-three new Covid-19 cases were confirmed in the Australian state of New South Wales, 21 of those so far linked to the new northern beaches outbreak. The state’s premier, Gladys Berejiklian, warned further restrictions for the rest of Sydney were possible on Sunday if the outbreak appeared more widespread.
The Australian states of Victoria, Queensland and Tasmania imposed new travel rules for people arriving in their states from New South Wales and urged their residents not to travel there.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/ ... 19-cluster

There's no mask mandate in Sydney. Try again.

[Scot Dutchy]

Just the start. Pissing up the wall again?

[rainbow]

What metrics/results would cause you to stop following the news and government mandates?

I ask because I don't even know myself. I used to think survival rate or death rate, but Weinstein straitened me out about that. I also thought that 'R-naught' being below a certain number, but that doesn't seem to be good enough (due to suspected asymptomatic transmission)

Is there something that would make it clear enough to you? Or even better to a regular peon?

In my country we have these people called "Doctors", even though they don't have a proper PhD, they do spend 7 years learning about medicine, so sometimes they know a little more that Kevin on the internet.

When you get these doctors in your country, you might consult with one.

[Hermit]

Australia losing grip again even with all those masks.

The northern beaches area of Sydney entered a four-day lockdown to midnight on Wednesday as authorities try to contain a Covid-19 outbreak ahead of Christmas.
Twenty-three new Covid-19 cases were confirmed in the Australian state of New South Wales, 21 of those so far linked to the new northern beaches outbreak. The state’s premier, Gladys Berejiklian, warned further restrictions for the rest of Sydney were possible on Sunday if the outbreak appeared more widespread.
The Australian states of Victoria, Queensland and Tasmania imposed new travel rules for people arriving in their states from New South Wales and urged their residents not to travel there.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/ ... 19-cluster

There's no mask mandate in Sydney. Try again.

There is no need for one. The NSW Government just strongly recommends to take extra precautions to protect others in the following situations:

• if it is hard to maintain 1.5 metres of physical distance from others
• when in high-risk indoor areas such as public transport, ride share, taxis, supermarkets, shops, places of worship and entertainment venues
• if symptoms develop while you are out of home
• if you are out of home and notified by NSW Health that you are a close contact of a confirmed COVID-19 case (including if you have visited a location with a reported case and must self-isolate immediately)
• when caring for or serving vulnerable people
• if working in a cafe, restaurant, pub, club or other high-risk indoor areas
• singing or chanting as part of the audience or congregation
  • indoor settings – NSW Health strongly recommends that audience members and congregants older than 12 years old wear face masks if singing or chanting.
  • outdoor settings – if the event is one where the audience or congregation are likely to participate in the singing, such as carols by candlelight or religious services, audience members and congregants 12 years or older should wear a face mask.

Wearing a mask in NSW is not mandatory in the situations above. However, NSW Health strongly recommends people wear a mask when unable to physically distance, particularly in indoor settings, to keep everyone safe.

You should also wear a mask if you:

• have any symptoms and are seeking medical care
• are going to get tested
• are in the same room as another person when you have symptoms or have been asked to self-isolate.

https://www.nsw.gov.au/covid-19/face-masks

The NSW government and all other state governments, will undoubtedly make mask wearing mandatory well before the pandemic gets as out of control as it is in the Netherlands. The Australian population is - as Scot Dutchy keeps pointing out - nowhere near as dense as the Dutch.

[rainbow]

The Australian population is - as Scot Dutchy keeps pointing out - nowhere near as dense as the Dutch.

...some say that if you tell them to wear masks, they get a false sense of security, and start licking each other.

[NineBerry]

Taking harder measures early (when there are only a few cases) is the basis of the good outcomes of the east Asian and Australian strategy.

[Tero]

Only in America?

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[Tero]

[Tero]

When those mass vaccinations start, Trumpsters will start tweeting about how many got Covid in vaccination line.

[Tero]

Them damn Democrats! Always so PC and safe.

[Brian Peacock]

Spotted in Edinburgh town centre...

[Cunt]

What metrics/results would cause you to stop following the news and government mandates?

I ask because I don't even know myself. I used to think survival rate or death rate, but Weinstein straitened me out about that. I also thought that 'R-naught' being below a certain number, but that doesn't seem to be good enough (due to suspected asymptomatic transmission)

Is there something that would make it clear enough to you? Or even better to a regular peon?

In my country we have these people called "Doctors", even though they don't have a proper PhD, they do spend 7 years learning about medicine, so sometimes they know a little more that Kevin on the internet.

When you get these doctors in your country, you might consult with one.

I understand your bravery in accepting all government mandates as they all come with doctors approval.

Which country are you in again? Is it the Trump mandates you agree with? Or the Aussie ones?