US Election 2020

[Cunt]

Did Fang Fang bang any Bidens? Or just Swalwell?

I think the election is finally over, with the left's best offering about to take over as soon as joe has his 'health problem'.

Unless the conspiracy theories are right...

[Cunt]

Going to check out the White House livestream. Is that also conspiracy nonsense?

[L'Emmerdeur]

Jenna Ellis isn't a constitutional scholar and she apparently isn't a particularly good lawyer either, since she failed to properly research the topic she's claiming to explain.

Much of what she says is correct, but she fails to mention that even if Republicans in Congress attempt to overturn the will of the people of the US, they will almost certainly fail. If they attempt to reject the duly certified electors from a state they don't have an alternate slate of electors to accept. No state that voted for Biden has certified Trump electors on an alternate slate.

She's mistaken in regard to the initial voting on the objection. When the two houses separate for debate and vote, in the House of Representatives all representatives get a vote*, just as in the Senate each senator gets a vote. If the House of Representatives doesn't sustain the objection, the electoral votes are counted.**

It's only if Congress as a whole (after each house has voted) rejects the Electoral College results that it falls to the House of Representatives to carry out a final vote to elect the president; in that vote and only in that vote each state delegation gets a single vote.

The House of Representatives is not going to reject the votes of the Electoral College, and it's very unlikely that the Senate will do so either (it's been noise by a representative [Brooks] about this--senators have not joined in the noise). Yes, objections will be entertained, but it's extremely unlikely that they will succeed.

* 'The joint session does not act on any objections that are made. Instead, the joint session is suspended, the Senate withdraws from the House chamber, and each house meets separately to debate the objection and vote whether, based on the objection, to count the vote or votes in question. Both houses must vote separately to agree to the objection by simple majority. Otherwise, the objection fails and the vote or votes are counted. (3 U.S.C. §15 provides that “the two Houses concurrently may reject the vote or votes.”)' (source)

** 'If there’s a split decision, meaning the House voted one way and the Senate voted the other, the objection fails and votes are counted as originally cast.' (source)

[Joe]

And besides, Mitch doesn't like the idea.

Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) is urging Republicans not to object during Congress’s count and certification of the Electoral College vote next month.

McConnell’s comments were made during a caucus call on Tuesday, according to a source familiar with the call, and come as House Republicans are eyeing a challenge to the results on Jan. 6 during a joint session of Congress.

A Republican senator who participated in the call said that McConnell, Senate Republican Whip John Thune (R-S.D.) and Senate Rules Committee Chairman Roy Blunt (R-Mo.) all urged colleagues not to object to states’ electoral votes when they are received on the House floor next month.

McConnell warned that any GOP senator who signed onto a House Republican objection to a state’s electoral votes would then force the Senate to debate and vote on the objection, putting fellow GOP senators in a bad position.

The GOP leader said an objection “isn’t in the best interest of everybody.”

No Senate Republicans indicated during the call that they are currently planning to object.

“Not that I heard,” said Sen. Mike Rounds (R-S.D.), asked if anyone indicated that they would object during the call.

Sen. John Barrasso (Wyo.), the No. 3 GOP senator, added that he hasn’t “heard of any” GOP senator willing to object next month.

"I think that there was encouragement on the phone for us to accept the result, as much as it's not what we, you know, would have envisioned for the next four years, and to try to do what's best for American people, which is to look forward," said Sen. Shelley Moore Capito (R-W.Va.) said about the call.

[L'Emmerdeur]

Addendum: I neglected to link to 3 U.S.C. §15. A careful reading of that section will show that nowhere does it support Jenna Ellis's claim.

... the Speaker of the House of Representatives shall, in like manner, submit such objections to the House of Representatives for its decision ...

Note that the decision will be made by 'the House of Representatives' as a body, not by single votes from state delegations.

The 'vote by state delegation' provision is in the 12th Amendment, and is specific to the 'contingent presidential election' that takes place in the event that the Electoral College vote doesn't return a majority for either candidate.

I'm glad this doesn't depend on what the colossal shitwad McConnell likes or doesn't like. In my opinion the only reason he's not going for it is that he knows perfectly well that it simply will not succeed. Though the Trumpists in Congress flailing around with this nonsense will get the rubes all excited it will be political capital spent for nought, and he knows that as well.

[Cunt]

I'm glad this doesn't depend on what the colossal shitwad McConnell likes or doesn't like. In my opinion the only reason he's not going for it is that he knows perfectly well that it simply will not succeed. Though the Trumpists in Congress flailing around with this nonsense will get the rubes all excited it will be political capital spent for nought, and he knows that as well.

You would be more believable if you weren't in agreement with censors run by large corporations, beholden to...um...shareholders?

What I'm trying to say, is that everything you say is just fine to put on youtube, facebook or NPR.

If you had opinions which were less 'safe', they might sound more honest. As it is, you simply sound like a Democrat Party apologist.

As it is, Tim Pool and Alex Jones are MUCH more convincing than you, about their opinions being honestly their opinions.

[L'Emmerdeur]

Isn't there a kraken somewhere that's begging to be sucked off?

[Cunt]

Free speech is dangerous.

[Cunt]

https://thedonald.win/p/11R4bwKrQt/toda ... pening-/c/

Does lying under oath carry any penalties for 'friends of the left'? Is the Dominion company a 'friend of the left'?

Asking for a friend...

[Brian Peacock]

And besides, Mitch doesn't like the idea.

Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) is urging Republicans not to object during Congress’s count and certification of the Electoral College vote next month.

McConnell’s comments were made during a caucus call on Tuesday, according to a source familiar with the call, and come as House Republicans are eyeing a challenge to the results on Jan. 6 during a joint session of Congress.

A Republican senator who participated in the call said that McConnell, Senate Republican Whip John Thune (R-S.D.) and Senate Rules Committee Chairman Roy Blunt (R-Mo.) all urged colleagues not to object to states’ electoral votes when they are received on the House floor next month.

McConnell warned that any GOP senator who signed onto a House Republican objection to a state’s electoral votes would then force the Senate to debate and vote on the objection, putting fellow GOP senators in a bad position.

The GOP leader said an objection “isn’t in the best interest of everybody.”

No Senate Republicans indicated during the call that they are currently planning to object.

“Not that I heard,” said Sen. Mike Rounds (R-S.D.), asked if anyone indicated that they would object during the call.

Sen. John Barrasso (Wyo.), the No. 3 GOP senator, added that he hasn’t “heard of any” GOP senator willing to object next month.

"I think that there was encouragement on the phone for us to accept the result, as much as it's not what we, you know, would have envisioned for the next four years, and to try to do what's best for American people, which is to look forward," said Sen. Shelley Moore Capito (R-W.Va.) said about the call.

I think Mitch should grow a pair and stick to his principles for a change.

[Joe]

And besides, Mitch doesn't like the idea.

Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) is urging Republicans not to object during Congress’s count and certification of the Electoral College vote next month.

McConnell’s comments were made during a caucus call on Tuesday, according to a source familiar with the call, and come as House Republicans are eyeing a challenge to the results on Jan. 6 during a joint session of Congress.

A Republican senator who participated in the call said that McConnell, Senate Republican Whip John Thune (R-S.D.) and Senate Rules Committee Chairman Roy Blunt (R-Mo.) all urged colleagues not to object to states’ electoral votes when they are received on the House floor next month.

McConnell warned that any GOP senator who signed onto a House Republican objection to a state’s electoral votes would then force the Senate to debate and vote on the objection, putting fellow GOP senators in a bad position.

The GOP leader said an objection “isn’t in the best interest of everybody.”

No Senate Republicans indicated during the call that they are currently planning to object.

“Not that I heard,” said Sen. Mike Rounds (R-S.D.), asked if anyone indicated that they would object during the call.

Sen. John Barrasso (Wyo.), the No. 3 GOP senator, added that he hasn’t “heard of any” GOP senator willing to object next month.

"I think that there was encouragement on the phone for us to accept the result, as much as it's not what we, you know, would have envisioned for the next four years, and to try to do what's best for American people, which is to look forward," said Sen. Shelley Moore Capito (R-W.Va.) said about the call.

I think Mitch should grow a pair and stick to his principles for a change.

I recall hearing that he once had a pair, but sat on them and they haven't been seen since.

[Seabass]

I recall hearing that he once had a pair, but sat on them and they haven't been seen since.

I miss Jon Stewart...

[Joe]

Yeah, me too. Great comic and interviewer.

[rainbow]

I get that you don't see a reason, but did you know that in some countries, health information is considered private? I mean, private enough that in the US, it is poor form to ask someone if they really need that service dog, wheelchair, or such?

I think it is also poor form to knowingly expose people to the risk of a fatal disease.

Do lawmakers get your ire? Or just your neighbours?

No and no.

...so to you. Do you think it is good form to knowingly spread diseases?

[rainbow]

Free speech is dangerous.

No stupidity is dangerous. Calling out stupid people for giving dangerous statements, is not restricting their speech.
Not giving imbeciles a platform to spread ignorance, is the right of any organisation.