All Things Trump: Is it over yet?

[Tero]

Parler

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[Tero]

Bill Barr will definitely not be AG in the Second Trump term!

[Brian Peacock]

These are the same people who exuberantly declare that their team was magnificent when they win but blame the referree when they lose - the kind of people who think God has blessed them when they win 10 bucks on a scratch but that Satan has cursed them when they get a parking ticket. Some malign and corrupting force is always responsible for them not getting exactly what they want goddammit!

[Tero]

Meanwhile, gov't is sputtering. Not entirely Trump's fault. Our gov't always sputters when it's time to pay the bill. We as a country are kind of like Trump. Why does China keep buing our bonds?
https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2020/12/01/poli ... index.html

[Tero]

Some kind of pardon scandal brewing

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[Seabass]

[L'Emmerdeur]

I would have thought that in exchange for a pardon, the beneficiary of the pardon would have to perform some service or take some action that benefited the president. The unsealed document appears to show that somebody was suspected of trying to literally buy a pardon. The first mention, 'substantial political contribution' is general enough, but 'intermediaries to deliver the proposed bribe' sounds like a cash money drop (both on page 2 of the original document, page 4 of the PDF). Bricks of $100 bills? Could the current President of the United States really be that venal?

Memorandum Opinion and Order (redacted) | Chief Judge Beryl Howell

'Justice Department Investigating Possible Bribery-For-Pardon Scheme'

The Justice Department is investigating a possible secret scheme involving a bribe in exchange for a presidential pardon, according to court documents unsealed Tuesday.

[JimC]

A bit like papal indulgences from the past...

[Brian Peacock]

Somebody explain to me how someone can be pardoned in advance of an arrest and conviction?

[pErvinalia]

It's like a 'Get out of jail free' card.

[JimC]

Say 3 Hail Marys and you can bugger as many choir boys as you like till next Sunday...

[Seabass]

Innocent people always ask for pardons, right?

Rudy Giuliani reportedly seeks pardon from Donald Trump

Rudy Giuliani, former New York City mayor and the man leading Donald Trump's legal challenge to the 2020 election, is reported to have had discussions with the president about obtaining a pardon.

The New York Times reported Tuesday that Mr Giuliani is allegedly seeking a pre-emptive pardon from Mr Trump. The newspaper cites two unnamed people with knowledge of the discussion.

The anonymous sources said it was no clear who broached the topic first, and it was not immediately clear if Mr Trump would follow through on the request.

There were no immediate details regarding the crimes Mr Giuliani allegedly wants pardoned. Federal prosecutors were investigating him last summer for his involvement in Ukraine business dealings that eventually led to Mr Trump's impeachment.

Mr Giuliani's lawyer told the paper in a statement that he's "not concerned about this investigation, because he didn't do anything wrong and that's been our position from Day 1."

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/worl ... 64579.html

[pErvinalia]

Can Biden undo any pardons?