The Coronavirus Thread

[Brian Peacock]

... What's the Dutch excess death rate at the moment btw?

We had 10 new cases. Yep 10 in a population of 17 million. Not deaths or hospitalisations. Just 10 positive tests in one day. That is the parameter here; they must test positive and not just have symptoms which happens elsewhere.
There is no Covid patient in IC. They have a protocol of three drugs which shortens time in hospital by 4 days and stops the need of IC.

The excess death rate is the the number of deaths above the five-year average for a given period. So, what's the Dutch excess death rate at the moment for the period of March to July?

[Scot Dutchy]

We had 10 new cases. Yep 10 in a population of 17 million. Not deaths or hospitalisations. Just 10 positive tests in one day. That is the parameter here; they must test positive and not just have symptoms which happens elsewhere.
There is no Covid patient in IC. They have a protocol of three drugs which shortens time in hospital by 4 days and stops the need of IC.

Still not answering rainbow?

You must have missed this:

Weekly COVID-19 update: 12 Aug - 18 Aug 2020

4,013 new COVID-19 infections were reported over the past week. That is 23 fewer confirmed cases reported than the week before that. Hospital admissions (current or previous) due to COVID-19 were reported during the past week for 50 patients. That is 12 more than last week.

16 deaths of laboratory-confirmed COVID-19 patients were reported, 7 more than the week before.

You say 10 cases, your own government says 4 013 cases in a week.

I suppose the Dutch government is lying?

Nogmaals schijter wat maak je druk om. Wij zijn met 17 miljoen. 35,000 sterf elke jaar van stress gerelateerd ziektes en wij moest ons druk maken over 5000 dode. Rot op. Hoe zit het met jouw wonderbaarlijk Afrika?

[Brian Peacock]

[Tero]

The Netherlands article has inconsistent data
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COVID-19_ ... etherlands
the first bar graph seems to indicate 4000 new cases over a week. tables and graphs further below indicate much less

US has 17,469 per 1 million pop, Netehrlands 3800 per 1 million pop in Worldometer

[Scot Dutchy]

The Netherlands article has inconsistent data
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COVID-19_ ... etherlands
the first bar graph seems to indicate 4000 new cases over a week. tables and graphs further below indicate much less

US has 17,469 per 1 million pop, Netehrlands 3800 per 1 million pop in Worldometer

I entirely agree but the smaller the population greater is the percentage of what? This exactly where the data breaks down ( just look at Lichtenstein's performance). What is a Covid death is one country is not in another. There has been no agreed protocol on what is a case or death. We also have to take into account of extremely corrupt countries without question.

[Scot Dutchy]

You know I get really tired of people attacking this country. Just because we and one or two other countries are not willing to drink the kool-aid we are so criticised because we dont follow the mass. Those countries who imposed strict martial law like lock downs are losing it (South Korea, China and Singapore) We have hiccups. We do sill live civilised. I still have total freedom to go where I want. There is no policeman or garde asking where I am going as in Ireland: You are allowed to go out once a day just to shop.

[Sean Hayden]

I still don't get what the problem is. From what I can see the never maskers, can't tell me shit crowd, have been this way from the beginning. Now they're talking about indefinite lockdowns, despite many of them experiencing little more than mere suggestions to practice social distancing and wear masks.

Can you imagine if we faced a greater threat that required sacrifice? holy-fucking-shit-we'd-be-dead

[Sean Hayden]

...less than a year in now folks

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Do you think they tossed these guys over the city walls in the old days?

[Scot Dutchy]

Never mind Sean. Just keep sucking the social tit. Next time you will asked to put a paper bag over your head.

[Sean Hayden]

...and I'll refuse.

I must admit to taking some pleasure in being thought of as someone who simply does what he's told.

[Tero]

If you want to impress people, get a plague mask.

[Brian Peacock]

I must admit to taking some pleasure in being thought of as someone who simply does what he's told.

Clean your room!

[Hermit]

We had 10 new cases. Yep 10 in a population of 17 million.

Trusting published statistics all of a sudden?

Wrong. According to the official numbers, the were more than 500 new cases yesterday. There are more than 50 covid patients in ICU in the Netherlands and the were ten new hospitalisations yesterday and 6 new deaths.

Oops. Where did you get your statistics from?

[Scot Dutchy]

No just quoting off the top my head which is just as good as any other data especially that from third world countries. Nobody can explain how that data is collected as we have made a balls up in so called first world countries how can they do it? Who is travelling around all those villages every day or are they like most just guestimates especially when there aid money to be had?

[rainbow]

We had 10 new cases. Yep 10 in a population of 17 million. Not deaths or hospitalisations. Just 10 positive tests in one day. That is the parameter here; they must test positive and not just have symptoms which happens elsewhere.
There is no Covid patient in IC. They have a protocol of three drugs which shortens time in hospital by 4 days and stops the need of IC.

Still not answering rainbow?

You must have missed this:

Weekly COVID-19 update: 12 Aug - 18 Aug 2020

4,013 new COVID-19 infections were reported over the past week. That is 23 fewer confirmed cases reported than the week before that. Hospital admissions (current or previous) due to COVID-19 were reported during the past week for 50 patients. That is 12 more than last week.

16 deaths of laboratory-confirmed COVID-19 patients were reported, 7 more than the week before.

You say 10 cases, your own government says 4 013 cases in a week.

I suppose the Dutch government is lying?

Hoe zit het met jouw wonderbaarlijk Afrika?

Bloody marvelous. Please send more Dutch missionaries, we are running out.

So back to my question.
The Dutch government says 500 people are getting infected every day, you say it is 19.

Who is lying?