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Re: The Coronavirus Thread

Post by JimC » Wed Jul 22, 2020 2:23 am

Shit. A new daily case record for Victoria of 484. Still pestilence central...
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Re: The Coronavirus Thread

Post by NineBerry » Wed Jul 22, 2020 8:09 am

JimC wrote:
Wed Jul 22, 2020 2:23 am
Shit. A new daily case record for Victoria of 484. Still pestilence central...
Damn. That's more than Germany's daily (With more than ten times the number of people living here)

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Re: The Coronavirus Thread

Post by rainbow » Wed Jul 22, 2020 8:44 am

L'Emmerdeur wrote:
Tue Jul 21, 2020 8:23 pm
Preliminary results seem encouraging.
The protein is inhaled directly into the lungs of patients with coronavirus, using a nebuliser, in the hope that it will stimulate an immune response.
Oh Lor'.
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...so now we will have Trump claiming he thought of it first. :ddpan:
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Re: The Coronavirus Thread

Post by rainbow » Wed Jul 22, 2020 8:57 am

Scot Dutchy wrote:
Tue Jul 21, 2020 7:29 pm
Just a small point all those countries with obligatory mask wearing are not reducing numbers.
The countries in which you have to wear face masks:

China
Japan
Some parts of the United States
Germany
France
India
Italy
Brazil
Canada
Russia
South Korea
Spain
Mexico
Indonesia
Netherlands
Saudi Arabia
Turkey
Switzerland
Taiwan
Poland
Belgium
Argentina
Thailand
Austria
United Arab Emirates
Nigeria
Israel
South Africa
Singapore
Hong Kong
Colombia
Philippines
Pakistan
Chile
Bangladesh
Egypt
Czech Republic
Vietnam
Portugal
Romania
Iraq
Peru
Greece
Qatar
Kazakhstan
Algeria
Kuwait
All of them?

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Post by Scot Dutchy » Wed Jul 22, 2020 9:10 am

Why not start proving they are. I dont have to prove a negative. There is no conclusive evidence that they do. Which countries have a hard protocol regarding specifications and use?
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Re: The Coronavirus Thread

Post by NineBerry » Wed Jul 22, 2020 9:10 am

rainbow wrote:
Wed Jul 22, 2020 8:44 am
L'Emmerdeur wrote:
Tue Jul 21, 2020 8:23 pm
Preliminary results seem encouraging.
The protein is inhaled directly into the lungs of patients with coronavirus, using a nebuliser, in the hope that it will stimulate an immune response.
Oh Lor'.
:roll:
...so now we will have Trump claiming he thought of it first. :ddpan:
The conspiracy nuts will go crazy. Because the same method (sniffing the vaccine rather then injecting it) is used in the 2011 movie "Contagion" which the conspiracy nuts believe THEY produced to mock us by presenting us with their exact plans for the Covid19-"plandemic".

On the other hand, how is Bill Gates going to inject us with microchips if we sniff the vaccine?

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Re: The Coronavirus Thread

Post by rainbow » Wed Jul 22, 2020 9:31 am

Scot Dutchy wrote:
Wed Jul 22, 2020 9:10 am
Why not start proving they are. I dont have to prove a negative. There is no conclusive evidence that they do. Which countries have a hard protocol regarding specifications and use?
The burden of proof is clearly yours.

You made the statement: "all those countries with obligatory mask wearing are not reducing numbers"

If you can't support your assertion, we'll be happy to assume that you pulled this out of your arse, and happily walk away.

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Re: The Coronavirus Thread

Post by Scot Dutchy » Wed Jul 22, 2020 9:55 am

rainbow wrote:
Wed Jul 22, 2020 9:31 am
Scot Dutchy wrote:
Wed Jul 22, 2020 9:10 am
Why not start proving they are. I dont have to prove a negative. There is no conclusive evidence that they do. Which countries have a hard protocol regarding specifications and use?
The burden of proof is clearly yours.

You made the statement: "all those countries with obligatory mask wearing are not reducing numbers"

If you can't support your assertion, we'll be happy to assume that you pulled this out of your arse, and happily walk away.

...up to you.
No I was confirming an observation as numbers in those countries keep on rising. The claim that 'masks work' is a positive claim which cant be substantiated by any scientific evidence. Of course you ignored the second part of my post; Which countries have a hard protocol regarding specifications and use?
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Re: The Coronavirus Thread

Post by rainbow » Wed Jul 22, 2020 10:02 am

Scot Dutchy wrote:
Wed Jul 22, 2020 9:55 am
rainbow wrote:
Wed Jul 22, 2020 9:31 am
Scot Dutchy wrote:
Wed Jul 22, 2020 9:10 am
Why not start proving they are. I dont have to prove a negative. There is no conclusive evidence that they do. Which countries have a hard protocol regarding specifications and use?
The burden of proof is clearly yours.

You made the statement: "all those countries with obligatory mask wearing are not reducing numbers"

If you can't support your assertion, we'll be happy to assume that you pulled this out of your arse, and happily walk away.

...up to you.
No I was confirming an observation as numbers in those countries keep on rising. The claim that 'masks work' is a positive claim which cant be substantiated by any scientific evidence.
Prove your first claim before attempting the second one, be a dear, thanks.
Of course you ignored the second part of my post; Which countries have a hard protocol regarding specifications and use?
That is part of the evidence, that YOU need to supply to support YOUR argument.

...if you can't, you can't.

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Re: The Coronavirus Thread

Post by Scot Dutchy » Wed Jul 22, 2020 10:32 am

I dont have to prove anything. Numbers are still rising. Prove that masks work will you dear that's a pet.
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Re: The Coronavirus Thread

Post by rainbow » Wed Jul 22, 2020 1:11 pm

Scot Dutchy wrote:
Wed Jul 22, 2020 10:32 am
I dont have to prove anything.
Of course you don't.

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Re: The Coronavirus Thread

Post by Scot Dutchy » Wed Jul 22, 2020 2:26 pm

rainbow wrote:
Wed Jul 22, 2020 1:11 pm
Scot Dutchy wrote:
Wed Jul 22, 2020 10:32 am
I dont have to prove anything.
Of course you don't.

Nobody really cares if you lose all credibility.
Are the numbers going down?
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Re: The Coronavirus Thread

Post by Brian Peacock » Wed Jul 22, 2020 4:03 pm

But you don't trust the numbers Scot - so you can't really rely on that argument can you?
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Re: The Coronavirus Thread

Post by Scot Dutchy » Wed Jul 22, 2020 5:15 pm

It what everyone keeps referring to. There was a marvellous article in the Volkskrant explaining the arguments about masks and why there is no evidence. An example is testing. In a true scientific test you would like to have two groups one with and one without and test them for fixed time but that is impossible. The conclusion was better doing something than nothing. As I say the just in case principle. One expert said the use is so important.
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