The Coronavirus Thread

[Brian Peacock]

Must've been a cold day.

[Scot Dutchy]

So, the problem is rather that the Dutch are selfish people. Just like they blocked the EU aides for Italy and Spain over the weekend.

We not block it. If we had there would not be any agreement.

[Scot Dutchy]

How Dutch people wear masks

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Does look very Dutch more like German.

[NineBerry]

So, the problem is rather that the Dutch are selfish people. Just like they blocked the EU aides for Italy and Spain over the weekend.

We not block it. If we had there would not be any agreement.

As leader of the group of so-called ‘frugal’ countries, Rutte had come under fire during the summit in Brussels for opposing no-strings relief for the countries worst hit by the Covid-19 outbreak, such as Italy and Spain. He acknowledged that tempers had run high during the talks, but insisted that the basis of mutual trust was intact. French president Emmanuel Macron was reported to have slammed his fist on the table during dinner on Sunday and told Rutte he was behaving like former British prime minister David Cameron with his blocking tactics.

The EU made concessions to the Dutch position by cutting the amount of subsidies for coronavirus recovery from €500 billion to €390 billion, with another €360 billion available as loans. The grants are explicitly tied to economic reforms in the countries receiving them, with a so-called ‘handbrake’ built in that all EU nations can apply to freeze the funding if a country is not making progress with its reforms. The emergency brake was one of Rutte’s demands, which he argued would ‘ensure strong member states and a strong internal market.’

The Netherlands’ annual rebate on the EU budget is also being increased from €1.5 million to €1.92 million.

https://www.dutchnews.nl/news/2020/07/e ... ra-rebate/

[rainbow]

So, the problem is rather that the Dutch are selfish people. Just like they blocked the EU aides for Italy and Spain over the weekend.

We not block it. If we had there would not be any agreement.

It is said that the Dutch are similar to the Scots, but not as generous.

[Brian Peacock]

[Scot Dutchy]

So, the problem is rather that the Dutch are selfish people. Just like they blocked the EU aides for Italy and Spain over the weekend.

We not block it. If we had there would not be any agreement.

It is said that the Dutch are similar to the Scots, but not as generous.

Like the Scots it depends where you come from. I think Aberdonians and Zeelanders (wij zijn zuinig) would get on great.

[Scot Dutchy]

Just a small point all those countries with obligatory mask wearing are not reducing numbers.

[L'Emmerdeur]

Preliminary results seem encouraging.

'Coronavirus: Protein treatment trial "a breakthrough"'

The preliminary results of a clinical trial suggest a new treatment for Covid-19 reduces the number of patients needing intensive care, according to the UK company that developed it.

The treatment from Southampton-based biotech Synairgen uses a protein called interferon beta which the body produces when it gets a viral infection.

The protein is inhaled directly into the lungs of patients with coronavirus, using a nebuliser, in the hope that it will stimulate an immune response.

The initial findings suggest the treatment cut the odds of a Covid-19 patient in hospital developing severe disease - such as requiring ventilation - by 79%.

Patients were two to three times more likely to recover to the point where everyday activities were not compromised by their illness, Synairgen claims.

It said the trial also indicated "very significant" reductions in breathlessness among patients who received the treatment.

In addition, the average time patients spent in hospital is said to have been reduced by a third, for those receiving the new drug - down from an average of nine days to six days.

The double-blind trial involved 101 volunteers who had been admitted for treatment at nine UK hospitals for Covid-19 infections.

Half of the participants were given the drug, the other half got what is known as a placebo - an inactive substance.

Stock market rules mean Synairgen is obliged to report the preliminary results of the trial.

The results have not been published in a peer-reviewed journal, nor has the full data been made available; so the BBC cannot confirm the claims made for the treatment.

[Tero]

Vaccine will have, eventually, a pandemic price:
AstraZeneca’s $1.2 billion deal to give the U.S. 300 million doses this fall means that they are selling their shots at no profit, said Mene Pangalos, executive vice president. Gerberding and Moderna President Stephen Hoge said they would not sell their products at cost; J&J and Pfizer representatives said they would be not-for-profit and otherwise priced responsibly during the pandemic.

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/07/2 ... ays-376493

[laklak]

I ain't lettin' no Bill Gates put no nanobullshit in me, goddamn it, I ain't no fuckin commie pinko snowflake.

[Brian Peacock]

You're not a snowflake at all.

[laklak]

I tried identifying as one, but I melted.

[Sean Hayden]

What's wrong with being a snowflake? A time for everything 'n all.

[JimC]

I would prefer to be a large hailstone...