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by Hermit » Mon Jul 20, 2020 9:17 am
Scot Dutchy wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 7:50 am
Don't take on propaganda nor does the RIVM.
Speaking of the RIVM (the Dutch Ministry of Health), it says
here:
Het mondkapje kan bij goed gebruik het risico verkleinen dat druppels uit mond en neus worden verspreid naar de omgeving. Het is geen vervanging van, maar een aanvulling op de geldende hygiënemaatregelen.
Google Translate renders it as saying:
The mouth mask can, with good use, reduce the risk that drops from the mouth and nose are spread to the environment. It is not a substitute for, but an addition to the applicable hygiene measures.
Basically, the Dutch Ministry of Health regards social distancing and frequent washing with soap as the best methods for inhibiting the spread of the Covid-19 virus, and the wearing of masks, including non-medical ones, as an additional measure to help contain that spread.
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by pErvinalia » Mon Jul 20, 2020 9:28 am
Yeah but that's the government. You can't trust them.
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by rainbow » Mon Jul 20, 2020 9:35 am
Scot Dutchy wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 8:32 am
NineBerry wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 8:30 am
No, it's not paper masks.
The vast majority are paper. It is China.
You were going to tell us which medical authority you were quoting.
0.000 000 001 out of 1000 000 000 homeopaths, perhaps?
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by Scot Dutchy » Mon Jul 20, 2020 10:02 am
Het is geen vervanging van
Yep it recommends using them. JFCOAPS.
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by Brian Peacock » Mon Jul 20, 2020 10:37 am
I don't think you should wear a mask Scot - not with your lungs. At the same time there's no good reason to be annoyed at people who do choose to wear them.
The reasons I don't like wearing them are 1) it's such a crying shame to cover up this square jaw and whiplash smile, and 2) I wear a mask when I take on my superhero persona to fight crime and do good for the community, so it's the last thing I want to do on my days off.
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by pErvinalia » Mon Jul 20, 2020 10:58 am
Now that I work from home, and get my groceries delivered, I don't have much reason to leave the house. I catch the bus to the shops about once a week. I could wear a mask for that without a problem if required. Actually, come summer I go to the beach everyday, but I'd be exempt from wearing one while riding the bike and swimming(duh).
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by Hermit » Mon Jul 20, 2020 11:00 am
Scot Dutchy wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 10:02 am
Het is geen vervanging van
Yep it recommends using them. JFCOAPS.
Indeed, it does because
The mouth mask can, with good use, reduce the risk that drops from the mouth and nose are spread to the environment.
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by Svartalf » Mon Jul 20, 2020 11:15 am
pErvinalia wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 10:58 am
Now that I work from home, and get my groceries delivered, I don't have much reason to leave the house. I catch the bus to the shops about once a week. I could wear a mask for that without a problem if required. Actually, come summer I go to the beach everyday, but I'd be exempt from wearing one while riding the bike and swimming(duh).
wish I could do the same, but any online delevery service demands a debit card number, and I don't have one, so I have to go to the store to be able to pay cash.
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by pErvinalia » Mon Jul 20, 2020 11:17 am
Can you get a debit card?
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by Svartalf » Mon Jul 20, 2020 11:39 am
nope, if I could I'd have done it looooooong ago
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by pErvinalia » Mon Jul 20, 2020 11:41 am
Sorry I read that as credit card above for some reason.
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by Scot Dutchy » Mon Jul 20, 2020 11:56 am
Hermit wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 11:00 am
Scot Dutchy wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 10:02 am
Het is geen vervanging van
Yep it recommends using them. JFCOAPS.
Indeed, it does because
The mouth mask can, with good use, reduce the risk that drops from the mouth and nose are spread to the environment.
You still dont get it. That is why they are useless as they are seldom used properly because it is impossible to do so.
They don't protect you, only other people from you. It creates a false sense of security. Most tests are carried out in labs.

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by Hermit » Mon Jul 20, 2020 12:16 pm
Scot Dutchy wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 11:56 am
Hermit wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 11:00 am
Scot Dutchy wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 10:02 am
Het is geen vervanging van
Yep it recommends using them. JFCOAPS.
Indeed, it does because
The mouth mask can, with good use, reduce the risk that drops from the mouth and nose are spread to the environment.
You still dont get it. That is why they are useless as they are seldom used properly because it is impossible to do so.
They don't protect you, only other people from you. It creates a false sense of security. Most tests are carried out in labs.
That argument reminds me of arguments against gun ownership regulations. It is also applicable to laws concerning seat belts in cars. To wit, what is the point of such laws if they do not stop all murders / traffic accident fatalities?
I go with the notion that every bit helps, as does the Dutch Ministry of Health. That is why it says that The mouth mask can,
with good use, reduce the risk that drops from the mouth and nose are spread to the environment.
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by pErvinalia » Mon Jul 20, 2020 12:19 pm
Should have bought stocks in mask makers.
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by rainbow » Mon Jul 20, 2020 2:01 pm
Scot Dutchy wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 11:56 am
They don't protect you, only other people from you.
Fairy Nuff.

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