Scot Dutchy wrote: ↑Mon Apr 20, 2020 7:10 am
Brian Peacock wrote: ↑Mon Apr 20, 2020 6:24 am
How much are you drinking Scot?
Back to the insults? You cant see how the momentum is being maintained? You cant see the political problems world wide that been solved, ignored and been put on the back burner? The environment, the political demonstrations in many countries stopped dead in their tracks? Of course as a Corbyn supporter naivety is your second name. This is a major political push for a power and plenty realise it and if they get a few 'experts' to back them on the way all the better.
Given your posts on the subject I think it's a legitimate question, but I'm sorry if I insulted you - it wasn't my intention. It's not that I don't see your point, I just don't see much evidence of the kind of conspiracies you're favouring at the moment. I accept that some regimes are using the crisis to extend and secure their authority, but I also think that in the West that won't wash for a few reasons.
Firstly, the governments of functioning democracies draw their power from the populous and I can't think of a single developed nation where the government has the means to control the population by force. They may be able to control them by spin and dissemination, to some extent, but if people go out on to the streets government aren't going to be locking everyone up or getting them to dig their own mass graves. they lack capacity regardless of their instincts or desires.
Secondly, systems like marshal law and police states are ultimately detrimental to Capital economies, and with the majority of developed political parties, whether in government or not, supportive of and reliant upon that paradigm getting back to as close to business-as-usual as soon as possible is generally considered not merely a priority, but a social and political necessity. We can't all be slave labourers in a Capital economy because those systems are driven by consumption and not even the 1% can buy enough to drive an interconnected global economy along. I feel that you reading of political economy is informed far more by fear and paranoia than a considered assessment of the social, political, or economical reality let alone a broadly material reading of history.
Normally I'd suggest that people address their social and political concerns by taking some for of social or political action which might work towards preventing their fears coming to fruition, but your brand of nihilistic fatalism forecloses on that possibility by maintaining that anything and everything people might do to improve their lives or matters in general is a complete and pointless waste of time. By my lights that just leaves nihilistic fatalists with a frustrating, impotent sense of #OUTRAGE that, when push comes to shove, can only be maintained by doubling-down on how shit they think the world really is. The irony is that people who do really have really shit lives often have more hope and more energy to change things than relatively well-off misanthropic latter-day millenarianists.
