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Post by laklak » Sat Apr 11, 2020 7:34 pm

They were a force of nature back in the day. Saw them in the early 70s on the Who's Next tour. The encore was Won't Get Fooled Again. Fuck-ing epic.
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Post by JimC » Sat Apr 11, 2020 9:07 pm

DRSB wrote:
Sat Apr 11, 2020 10:15 am
Reactivated? Like the anti-bodies changed sides?
South Korea Says Recovered Coronavirus Patients Test Positive Again
Health officials say the virus may have ‘reactivated’ in patients.
https://www.usnews.com/news/world-repor ... tive-again
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Post by Svartalf » Sat Apr 11, 2020 10:09 pm

or just one to which you don't build proper immunity... after all, corona is one of the virus families responsible for the common cold
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Post by Tero » Sat Apr 11, 2020 11:12 pm

Not sure how the cold virus relates, but these pandemics are caused by viruses that took a while to get there
https://www.livescience.com/coronavirus ... -rate.html

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Post by NineBerry » Sat Apr 11, 2020 11:15 pm

There is no single cold virus. The common cold is caused by a huge bag of different viruses from different virus families. Some of these are Corona viruses.

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Post by Tero » Sun Apr 12, 2020 12:32 am

Well yes, but there are 4 coronaviruses labeled common cold. Those have the same structure as covid 19.

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Post by NineBerry » Sun Apr 12, 2020 12:42 am

Just because they are related, doesn't mean anything. My brother and me are totally different in most aspects although we have a similar bone structure.

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Post by Tero » Sun Apr 12, 2020 12:51 am

If they have similar RNA and proteins, that means that their entry into cells and replication is the same.

There is a bit more to you and your content than a virus whose RNA code is 27-29 kilobases long.

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Post by Hermit » Sun Apr 12, 2020 4:44 am

Tero wrote:
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Townsend is a fucking pedo and Daltry looks like a mummy. Without Keef and John they are a pale shadow of their former selves.
I used that already. See my sig. Kari Report. Only not in that manner.
Townsend claims he was abused by a crazy granny when he was a kid. Thus we get Tommy.
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Post by Sean Hayden » Sun Apr 12, 2020 7:38 am

Estimated deaths continue to decrease as do the number hospitalized.

"More dead in the US than anywhere!"

It's hard not to be a prick and to see the lopsided focus as the worst in us.
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Post by Brian Peacock » Sun Apr 12, 2020 8:09 am

Indeed. They should focus on proportions rather than absolute numbers. The US has a population about 5.5x that of Italy for example, with Italian Covid-19 deaths at around 19.4k so far. If the US see c.100k deaths then that'll be hitting the Italian death rate as it is at the moment.
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Post by Scot Dutchy » Sun Apr 12, 2020 8:14 am

Here is an article on the validity of the data being churned out daily:

Coronavirus statistics: what can we trust and what should we ignore?
The flurry of figures, graphs and projections surrounding the pandemic is confusing. Two experts guide us through the maze

The past few weeks has seen an unstoppable epidemic … of statistics. The flood threatens to overwhelm us all, but what do all these numbers mean? Here are eight statistics you may see, with some warnings about how much we might trust them.
This about these wonderful models that are being used:
5 Predictions from models Computer models come in two types. The first tries to model the epidemic itself, by making simplified assumptions about the mechanismby which a virus spreads through a community. Key quantities, such as how many people an average case will infect, are highly uncertain at the start of an epidemic but are refined as more data is gathered. Such models have formed the basis for predicting the consequences of policy decisions in the UK.
This final bit is something many ignore:
Finally, it’s tempting to link a country’s statistics to the measures they have taken to control the virus: for example, has Sweden’s more relaxed policy been as effective as lockdown? But countries differ in so many ways: basic demographics, compliance and social networks, testing capacity and policy, health service characteristics and so on. Former prime minister Carl Bildt has joked that Swedes “have a genetic disposition to social distancing anyway”.
Yep comparing apples and pears.
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Post by Galaxian » Sun Apr 12, 2020 8:18 am

Scot Dutchy wrote:
Mon Mar 30, 2020 7:06 am
pErvinalia wrote:
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How do you know when someone positive dies they mis-appropriate the death to covid? You don't deal in facts. You deal in paranoia and conspiracy. You are losing your marbles. You've been getting gradually worse and worse for the last 6 months or so. In another 6 you'll be making Galaxian look rational.
Once again you cant avoid the shit. Just carry on and I am afraid you are back on my ignore list and you can give Cunt good company.
Scot Dutchy makes sense...whereas the other one spouts BS. And, Galaxian has always been rational.
Many relatives of old &/or infirm people confirm that the old blighter had been suffering from chronic heart, kidney or liver (etc) failure or lung cancer for months or years. They died in hospital or in the nursing home of the chronic illness, with no sign of flu-like symptoms. But the death certificate claimed 'covid-19'. That's the main reason for the very high rates in Italy... estimated that 88% of Italian deaths are wrongly attributed to covid-19, just to inflate the numbers:
https://www.independentsentinel.com/onl ... -directly/
"Only 12% of Italy’s patients reported as dying from Cov-19 died from it directly
"There are interesting reasons for that. One is their population is aging, and the another is 88% of them didn’t die directly from coronavirus although they tested positive for it according to a Telegraph report.
Doctors automatically record everyone with coronavirus who died as dying from it although they might have been dying from something else.
"According to Prof Walter Ricciardi, scientific adviser to Italy’s minister of health...“The way in which we code deaths in our country is very generous in the sense that all the people who die in hospitals with the coronavirus are deemed to be dying of the coronavirus.

On re-evaluation by the National Institute of Health, only 12 per cent of death certificates have shown a direct causality from coronavirus, while 88 per cent of patients who have died have at least one pre-morbidity – many had two or three,” he says."

And this deliberate mis-labeling of even ingrown toenails to covid-19 is rampant in many countries.
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Post by Brian Peacock » Sun Apr 12, 2020 8:21 am

Another way to look at it is to say that Italian Covid-19 deaths are c.1:3000 per head of population. By contrast Spain has a ratio of around 1:9000, the UK and the Netherlands about 1:12,500, and Germany 1:20,000.

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Post by DRSB » Sun Apr 12, 2020 8:30 am

Yeahbut: look at the number of tests per 1 M pop: UK, like France, ca. 5000, at the lowest end of the top 10 most infected countries. Switzerland has 22'000.

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