When You've Got Giuliani on Your Side

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When You've Got Giuliani on Your Side

Post by L'Emmerdeur » Wed Dec 11, 2019 5:12 am

He's going to deliver some sort of report to the Republicans that will supposedly blow a hole in the impeachment and vindicate Trump. Maybe he doesn't deserve his own thread, but he's working on it.

Two items to start off. First, some background which shows that his shining moment in September, 2001 wasn't all that great.

‘Giuliani Did All the Wrong Things on That Day’
Well, on that day, he said all the right things; I think he hit a chord with the American public generally, and of course, he was filling a void, because the president couldn’t be located. But he actually did all the wrong things on that day and in the lead-up to that day, in terms of preparing the city for any form of terrorist attack.

Remember, we were attacked once already in 1993, and it was a city that should have been ready, and should have understood the threat, particularly to the World Trade Center, since the terrorists said they were coming back.

So what he did wrong that day in particular was that he violated his own protocols, which it’s not just Wayne Barrett saying that. John Farmer, who was the head of the 9/11 Commission unit that worked on the chapter that dealt with the city’s response, I interviewed him, and he said that everything Giuliani did by splitting the command posts that day was in violation of his own command-and-control protocols.

What Giuliani did—and this story has been told a thousand times—is when he arrived in the vicinity of the World Trade Center complex, he met the police commissioner, Bernie Kerik, and with Bernie Kerik and almost the entire top-ranking uniformed officers of the police department, he walked over to West Street, on the far side of the towers, where the fire chiefs had set up their command posts.

It was, after all, a fire, so the fire chiefs are supposed to be in charge, and under any unified command system anywhere in the United States, the fire chiefs and the police chief should have been at the same command post, working together.

Instead, Giuliani spent about five minutes there, and then proceeded to leave and take the entire police brass with him, to another location on the far side of the towers, a safer location in the Barclay Building, an office building much further away from the towers.

If he had left a single high-ranking member of the police department there with the fire chiefs, then everybody would have had, the fire chiefs would have had, all the police communications that were coming in from the helicopters; the police pilots were saying the towers were going to collapse, and the dysfunction of the fire department radios would have meant far less.

But in fact, there were no police chiefs at the fire chief command post; there wasn’t any unified command, and that was a direct result of what Rudy himself did. That was his principal error that day; he made a few others, but that was his principal error.

And in the lead-up to 9/11, why were they even going to a command post? Why weren’t they going to the command center, which the city had spent up to $70 million creating and operating? And that’s because he put the command center in 7 World Trade, in the complex that had already been attacked, and it was vacated early in the day. So it was dysfunctional throughout the day, and that was a very costly error. Because there was no functioning command center, it heightened the importance of establishing a unified command, at this much more makeshift thing that occurs in all major events, this command post.

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Jumping forward about 20 years, a 20 year old with dubious qualifications is his chief spokesperson.

'The mystery of Rudy Giuliani's spokeswoman'
The gatekeeper to the lawyer for the most powerful man in the world is a 20-year-old conservative activist with a thin resume, an inflated biography and an impossible job.

For the past three months, Trumpworld has been both abuzz and baffled by Christianné Allen, a little-known Instagram personality who became Rudy Giuliani’s director of communications in September. She accompanies him wherever he goes, recently appearing by his side in Ukraine, where he’s working on a documentary defending himself against accusations that he ran a malicious campaign to get a U.S. ambassador fired. She’s his media strategist, technology consultant and the employee who helps field reporters’ daily onslaught of inquiries — or, at least, tries to do so.

...

Allen’s Twitter bio, LinkedIn, and old personal website list an array of suitable credentials: representative of the Trump Victory Finance Committee, the official joint fundraising committee for the re-election campaign; and video columnist for the Daily Caller. Spokeswoman for Trump’s 2016 presidential campaign. Executive director of the Middle Eastern Women’s Coalition.

According to representatives of these entities, these titles are embroidered at best, and completely untrue at the most. She is, however, an “ambassador” for both Turning Point USA and Liberty University’s Falkirk Center, titles she gained this year. And there’s no question she enjoys Giuliani’s confidence.

After POLITICO asked Allen and Giuliani about her resume and biography on Friday, he tapped out several tweets before responding privately. “Politico is about to write a malicious hit-piece on a Comms Director of mine,” Giuliani wrote. “Not just because she’s pro-Trump but because she’s lined up one witness after the other, proving just how corrupt the Democrat party is. Politico has assisted this cover up for years. It’s a shame!”

He later said in a text, sent before this article was published: “Your article is so filled with lies and misinterpretations, it stands out as a [sic] now an almost routine left wing hit piece on an exceptionally talented and really fine Christian Conservative woman and strong supporter of President Trump. I’m disappointed that Politico is now joining the [sic] destroy the reputation of those the Left believes should not be entitled to support President Trump.”

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Re: When You've Got Giuliani on Your Side

Post by rainbow » Wed Dec 11, 2019 7:07 am

Rudy the red-nosed barrister,
Had a very shiny nose
And if you ever saw it
You would even say it grows
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Re: When You've Got Giuliani on Your Side

Post by Brian Peacock » Wed Dec 11, 2019 10:25 am

You can tell when he's lying because his lips are moving.
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Re: When You've Got Giuliani on Your Side

Post by Tero » Wed Dec 11, 2019 1:35 pm

Yeah, Kari has already covered that:
http://karireport.blogspot.com/2019/12/ ... plice.html

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Re: When You've Got Giuliani on Your Side

Post by Tero » Wed Dec 11, 2019 8:29 pm

Why aren't there any poctures of Rudy, Trump and Putin? These are the key meddlers before Barr.
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Inspector General Michael Horowitz told the Senate Judiciary Committee on Wednesday that the investigation is ongoing, and is broader than just Giuliani, but suggested his team was struggling to prove that there were illegal leaks.

Shortly before the election, Giuliani claimed that he heard about big problems coming soon for Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton. That was shortly before then-FBI Director James Comey announced he was reopening the criminal probe into Clinton's email server, which didn't lead to any criminal charges. The polls shifted after Comey's comments, and Clinton has said it was a main reason for her defeat.
https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2019/12/11/poli ... index.html

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Re: When You've Got Giuliani on Your Side

Post by Joe » Thu Dec 12, 2019 1:29 am

Yeah, I remember reading that Giuliani put a 6000 gallon unprotected fuel tank in his command post, which was a building code violation, and contributed to the spread of fire in the building when it was hit by debris from the fall of the North tower.
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