All Things Trump: Is it over yet?

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Re: All Things Trump: Is it over yet?

Post by JimC » Thu Jul 25, 2019 5:28 am

To me, this is a perfect example of a decision possible in the Scottish legal system. There are 3 trial outcomes, not just 2...

Guilty

Not Guilty

Not proven

The 3rd is Mueller's conclusion...
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Re: All Things Trump: Is it over yet?

Post by Seabass » Thu Jul 25, 2019 5:54 am

JimC wrote:
Thu Jul 25, 2019 5:28 am
To me, this is a perfect example of a decision possible in the Scottish legal system. There are 3 trial outcomes, not just 2...

Guilty

Not Guilty

Not proven

The 3rd is Mueller's conclusion...
Well, not quite. It's not that Mueller was unable to reach a conclusion, but rather he was not allowed to because of the absurd DOJ guideline that says a sitting president cannot be indicted, which effectively puts him above the law. According to over a thousand former federal prosecutors, the Mueller report had enough to indict Trump on obstruction charges. There is also the matter of the campaign finance laws that he and his former lawyer Michael Cohen violated, for which Cohen is going to prison for three years.

So thanks to this utterly ridonkulous DOJ guideline, our president is basically a king, albeit with term limits...
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Re: All Things Trump: Is it over yet?

Post by Scot Dutchy » Thu Jul 25, 2019 7:26 am

Not Proven means the case is not closed and the accused can always be retried if new evidence is found.
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Re: All Things Trump: Is it over yet?

Post by Seabass » Thu Jul 25, 2019 7:33 am

Robert Mueller's full testimony before U.S. House intelligence committee
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Re: All Things Trump: Is it over yet?

Post by L'Emmerdeur » Thu Jul 25, 2019 10:47 am

Seabass wrote:
Thu Jul 25, 2019 4:39 am
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Trump speaks before presidential seal doctored with symbols of Russia and golf
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/201 ... ning-point

At a student summit hosted by the conservative group Turning Point USA, the president stood before what looks, to the casual observer, very much like the US presidential seal. A thorough examination by the Washington Post, however, reveals some odd tweaks to the image.

First, the eagle has not one but two heads – making it look a lot like Russia’s coat of arms. And instead of holding arrows, as the bird does in the US seal, it’s holding golf clubs.

In other words, a proud presidential symbol was apparently reworked to shame Trump over two of the biggest targets of anti-Trump criticism – Russian involvement in the 2016 election and excessive golfing – and it was displayed behind the president for all to see.

How this happened remains a mystery. The Post spoke with a White House representative who said officials hadn’t seen the image in advance. A spokesperson for Turning Point USA, meanwhile, told the paper he was stumped as to the origins of the image, characterizing it as “a last-minute A/V mistake”. “I can’t figure out who did it yet,” the spokesman said, adding that he didn’t know where the image had come from.

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Oh my, TPUSA has been infiltrated by the resistance. In addition to the Russian double-headed eagle and the golf clubs--
Closer inspection of the symbol finds the Spanish words “45 es un titere” in place of the U.S. motto.

In Spanish, the words on the doctored symbol mean, “45 is a puppet,” the Post noted.

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Post by Tero » Thu Jul 25, 2019 11:18 am

"It’s just the story of an all-American badass who gets fed up with the system and dedicates his life to bringing down the corrupt powers that be,” Mueller told the House Judiciary Committee, adding that the 448-page report contains scenes of “wall-to-wall action” in which a tough, determined underdog fights his way through the corridors of power in Washington before finally defeating all his enemies and restoring liberty to the land.
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Re: All Things Trump: Is it over yet?

Post by Tero » Thu Jul 25, 2019 11:39 am

On another board:
A said:

Something like this has been going on for 8 years, under Republican control of Congress. In fact the number given at the time was 7,500 new agents.

Maybe the Trump Administration could get some wall money by not approving, say, $297 million to a consultant to recruit agents. The company came up with 3 new hires IIRC. FFS, you could give all new hires $500K signing bonuses and do way better than this useless consultant.

I've got to wonder how drastically the feds would have to lower their standards to get anything like 5,000-7,500 agents.

B said:
I see an obvious win-win here: hire the first 5,000 adult migrants who get to the border as ICE agents.
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Re: All Things Trump: Is it over yet?

Post by Cunt » Thu Jul 25, 2019 2:00 pm

JimC wrote:
Thu Jul 25, 2019 5:28 am
To me, this is a perfect example of a decision possible in the Scottish legal system. There are 3 trial outcomes, not just 2...

Guilty

Not Guilty

Not proven

The 3rd is Mueller's conclusion...
The 3rd is not an available conclusion, according to the laws he agreed to use.



The AG has also not exonerated you, JimC.

You are as guilty as Trump, at least according to law.

Mueller is either full of shit, or not allowed to answer plain questions, due to his allegiance.
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Re: All Things Trump: Is it over yet?

Post by Joe » Thu Jul 25, 2019 2:23 pm

Cunt wrote:
Thu Jul 25, 2019 2:00 pm
JimC wrote:
Thu Jul 25, 2019 5:28 am
To me, this is a perfect example of a decision possible in the Scottish legal system. There are 3 trial outcomes, not just 2...

Guilty

Not Guilty

Not proven

The 3rd is Mueller's conclusion...
The 3rd is not an available conclusion, according to the laws he agreed to use.



The AG has also not exonerated you, JimC.

You are as guilty as Trump, at least according to law.

Mueller is either full of shit, or not allowed to answer plain questions, due to his allegiance.
What law forbids it?
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Re: All Things Trump: Is it over yet?

Post by Cunt » Thu Jul 25, 2019 2:36 pm

Joe wrote:
Thu Jul 25, 2019 2:23 pm
Cunt wrote:
Thu Jul 25, 2019 2:00 pm
JimC wrote:
Thu Jul 25, 2019 5:28 am
To me, this is a perfect example of a decision possible in the Scottish legal system. There are 3 trial outcomes, not just 2...

Guilty

Not Guilty

Not proven

The 3rd is Mueller's conclusion...
The 3rd is not an available conclusion, according to the laws he agreed to use.



The AG has also not exonerated you, JimC.

You are as guilty as Trump, at least according to law.

Mueller is either full of shit, or not allowed to answer plain questions, due to his allegiance.
What law forbids it?
There is no law which describes 'exoneration' in the US, so he made that up.

As to what law forbids it, the only thing that makes sense is that Mueller is really so stupid he had to ask repeatedly for questions to be restated, and didn't remember who 'Fusion' was.

He probably isn't that stupid, so my guess is that it is due to ongoing investigations. All those sealed indictments, all these Q rumours...

More likely he is just an idiot, but it nearly fits that he asked AG Barr for a letter describing his limits to his testimony, refused to talk about many things which could (maybe?) be explained by being bound by an ongoing investigation...but that sounds a bit unlikely.

He can't exonerate, because it's never been done in US law. He made it up to generate headlines.
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Re: All Things Trump: Is it over yet?

Post by Tero » Thu Jul 25, 2019 3:04 pm

Mueller had a task and completed it. If he found evidence of money laundering etc he passed them on to the FBI. He is an employee and even of not working anymore under his contract, he cannot go beyond his job description. We passed laws for special council after Ken Starr went over the line and found a blue dress with a stain on it.

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Re: All Things Trump: Is it over yet?

Post by Cunt » Thu Jul 25, 2019 3:20 pm

Tero wrote:
Thu Jul 25, 2019 3:04 pm
Mueller had a task and completed it. If he found evidence of money laundering etc he passed them on to the FBI. He is an employee and even of not working anymore under his contract, he cannot go beyond his job description. We passed laws for special council after Ken Starr went over the line and found a blue dress with a stain on it.
So you also were not exonerated by Mueller. With that in mind, you are no more trustworthy than Trump himself.
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Re: All Things Trump: Is it over yet?

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