Yet more problematic stuff

[Cunt]

As usual, changing the topic rather than addressing my post is your standard operating procedure...

I thought that topic had exhuasted itself, but do go on avoiding this conundrum presented by the weird human rights case.

I did say that your claim of 'having weapons' didn't change my opinion of the matter, isn't that addressing it enough?

[Hermit]

You see, I've listened to people and allowed them to speak for themselves.

I did that too. Reading Mein Kampf convinced me that the author was a great man. He had vision!

...I don't know where you are getting your claims from, or why you think claiming (again) that he is white, or nationalist, or whatever is going to convince me of anything other than your disdain.

You could have easily found out by clicking on any of the seven links Brian Peacock provided here.

[Cunt]

I actually only listen to what Milo Yiannopolous says about you, Hermit. So yeah...he said nothing yet.

[Sean Hayden]

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[pErvinalia]

Those who recommend it, but haven't punched any nazis, are either cowards, or too dumb to find a single nazi.

Now you're acting just like Ngo - goading others into violence in the hope that it will somehow justify the kind of violence upon which fascist and neo-Nazi groups are predicated. Tell us, do you remember the day you decided to take the red pill?

I'm not goading others - I don't recommend violence.

What I am trying to do is to show how shitty this position is. Claiming that you punch gorillas is not exactly brave, when there are no gorillas around. Jump in the gorilla enclosure and start punching them, then I think it may rise to a 'brave position'. But claiming there are gorillas everywhere, and you think they need to be punched would sound stupid.

As it does when people say they think nazis should be punched, but then can't find any.

This bears no relationship to what I said. Not surprising, really, coming from you.

[Seabass]

Gavin McInnes, FFS. That guy's probably too extreme even for 42. When did Cunt go full alt-right? Was he always this way? Or is this a recent development?

[pErvinalia]

Just letting armed, racist thugs parade in the streets intimidating people they dislike had consequences in the 30's, and would have consequences today...

So where do you stand on bullies trying to force immigrant women to handle their penises?

Or on trans people fighting for their rights to regular beauty services?

Or would you avoid taking a side, because it outlines something awkward and ridiculous?

What's with you and non-sequitur replies?

[Sean Hayden]

[Cunt]

Gavin McInnes, FFS. That guy's probably too extreme even for 42. When did Cunt go full alt-right? Was he always this way? Or is this a recent development?

Are you afraid of listening to him?

Or of being caught listening to him?

I think it's very informative when people develop a condemnation for 'alt-right figures' without ever allowing the targeted individuals to speak for themselves.

In Gavins case, he IS an asshole.

So what? Should that mean everyone should be afraid to read or listen?

[Brian Peacock]

My point is that "the ends justify the means" is a dangerous trap for any part of the political spectrum...

Indeed. Which is why framimg our conversations and deliberations in terms of a response to the fascist and neo-Nazis of the Alt-Right is important and necessary. Unlike those hate-groups we don't oppose them and what they represent simply because they exist, but for what they say and do and for agitating for a kind of society which would grant them complete dominion over everybody else.

And certainly I'm not opposed to robust counter demonstrations against far-right arseholes by the likes of Antifa, with the hope that violence on their part is limited to self defence, and some concern that the excitement of potential street violence may be the motivation for some...

Violence may be the motivation for some anti-fascist protesters, but it's the fascists themselves that have put violence on the agenda. It's not like they're saying, "We simply want to persuade Blacks, Muslims, or Jews that they are racially inferior to us, the Master Race, in order to peacefully force them out of town," is it(?) Responding to an aggressor with an invitation to tea is probably of limited effect.

[Brian Peacock]

Antifa leading inexorably to violent conflict. Who knew that masking up and throwing shit at strangers could turn to violence...?

We should just let fascists and neo-Nazis have their way I guess, then this kind of violence would simply fade away, eh?

[pErvinalia]

Cunt, what do you think should be done about rising white nationalism (and alt-right trends like the INCEL movement)? You don't seriously think they are open to a peaceful contest of ideas, do you?

[Brian Peacock]

(A disputation of terms)

[Cunt]

Cunt, what do you think should be done about rising white nationalism (and alt-right trends like the INCEL movement)? You don't seriously think they are open to a peaceful contest of ideas, do you?

It's going to go against your grain, I think, so let me come at it sideways a bit.

You think mal-adjusted white men are a clear danger to society, I think.

Which do you think pose the greatest risk?

I'll give you a hint - It's single men.

So what do I think should be done? Love the neighbours. Get involved in the community. Spend time with people, even if they are racists.

Those maladjusted ones - some of them will go off anyway, but it's DAMNED sure that more of them will go off if isolated.

[Cunt]

> oh, by the way. what I meant was that within that group of 'maladjusted white men', the single ones among them would be an even greater risk.

Isolation isn't good. Single people are fuckity, and should have our attention for a few reasons.