All Things Trump: Is it over yet?
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According to Politico, Trump tried "to enlist the leaders of Saudi Arabia, Brazil, Australia, and Turkey in opposing commitments to stand by the Paris climate agreement made at previous G-20 summits."
Trump's efforts were ultimately unsuccessful, as the U.S. remained the sole outlier in refusing to back the summit's climate declaration.
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Trump's efforts were ultimately unsuccessful, as the U.S. remained the sole outlier in refusing to back the summit's climate declaration.
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There's been a shitload of memes about The Donald being a "draft dodger". I'm a bit confused, actually. I remember draft dodging. In fact, I was a draft dodger myself, I was a theology major at uni for a year because it kept me out of the draft and I had no desire to go kill little yellow dudes who never did a thing to me. Dodging the draft was a badge of honor in left wing, anti-establishment circles. Now it's not? Why? If you're going to criticise Trumpy for dodging the draft shouldn't you also criticise Mohammad Ali for doing the same thing, or Jane Fonda for traveling to North Vietnam?
Yeah well that's just, like, your opinion, man.
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Draft dodgers are men of peace. No tanks for you! Not even parked ones.
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It's the hypocrisy people are pointing out. If he wasn't such a war hawk it wouldn't be an issue.
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War hawk? He just likes dictators for friends. He's all huff and puff. No real man.
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Dictators need love too.
Yeah well that's just, like, your opinion, man.
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https://eu.usatoday.com/story/news/poli ... 617252002/WASHINGTON — President Trump used extraordinarily harsh rhetoric to renew his call for stronger immigration laws Wednesday, calling undocumented immigrants "animals" and venting frustration at Mexican officials who he said "do nothing" to help the United States.
“We have people coming into the country or trying to come in, we're stopping a lot of them, but we're taking people out of the country. You wouldn't believe how bad these people are," Trump said.
"These aren't people. These are animals."
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I'm all for draft dodging. I'm glad you managed to steer clear of that stupid war that killed 17% of the Vietnamese population and 70,000 Americans. But if you ever hijack the 4th of July and throw yourself a big dumb dictator-style military parade in honor of yourself, I will mock you relentlessly for your hypocrisy and narcissism.laklak wrote: ↑Thu Jul 04, 2019 4:12 pmThere's been a shitload of memes about The Donald being a "draft dodger". I'm a bit confused, actually. I remember draft dodging. In fact, I was a draft dodger myself, I was a theology major at uni for a year because it kept me out of the draft and I had no desire to go kill little yellow dudes who never did a thing to me. Dodging the draft was a badge of honor in left wing, anti-establishment circles. Now it's not? Why? If you're going to criticise Trumpy for dodging the draft shouldn't you also criticise Mohammad Ali for doing the same thing, or Jane Fonda for traveling to North Vietnam?
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Trump didn't dodge the draft. He really, really wanted to be a soldier... he would have made a good soldier... probably the best soldier... not many people know that... the best soldier.... like Captain America... probably better... not that he'd say that... but some people would probably say that.. because he loves the military... and he tried to be a military... but bone spurs made that impossible... so sad.
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No one likes a chickenhawk. Trump, Shrub, Cheney... all chickenhawks.
At least Hitler actually served and fought in a war...

At least Hitler actually served and fought in a war...

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"From George Washington leading the Continental Army to the Apollo 11 moon landing, Trump rattled off a list of American accomplishments and inventions in the name of freedom, while surreptitiously sneaking in a boast about his administration's accomplishments."
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“We are thrilled to have here tonight the famed flight commander, Gene Kranz”, who led the moon landing mission.
He promises Kranz that soon “we will plant the American flag on [long pause] Mars.”
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“We are thrilled to have here tonight the famed flight commander, Gene Kranz”, who led the moon landing mission.
He promises Kranz that soon “we will plant the American flag on [long pause] Mars.”
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I my 40+ years working, I only had one boss who regularly threw me under the bus with partners and customers. I found another job pretty quickly.
I have to say that guy has nothing on Trump. This is what happens when the Tweeter-in-Chief craps on his people.
I wonder how he's going to vote in 2020.
I have to say that guy has nothing on Trump. This is what happens when the Tweeter-in-Chief craps on his people.
Gardner's got to be thinking how much more money he could make with a big private law firm.THE COURT: Good afternoon. Who do I have for the LUPE plaintiffs?
MS. HULETT: Denise Hulett.
THE COURT: For the Kravitz plaintiffs?
MR. DURAISWAMY: Shankar Duraiswamy.
THE COURT: And for the Government?
MR. DUKE: And Ben Duke.
MR. GARDNER: For the Government, Josh Gardner and Jody Hunt, Assistant Attorney General for the Civil Division.
THE COURT: Mr. Gardner, I know you're on vacation, and so I hated to interrupt that.
Couple things. One, we do have a court reporter here. It's Ms. Davis, who knows each of your voices well at this point. She does ask that Mr. Duraiswamy speak slowly, and so I'm sure you all will accommodate that. She does know each of your voices at this point, so it's probably not necessary to identify yourselves every time you speak.
So I guess the reason I wanted to have this call, obviously, we had our call -- I guess it was yesterday; feels like a while ago, but I think it was yesterday -- and then this morning I saw a tweet that got my attention. I don't know how many federal judges have Twitter accounts, but I happen to be one of them, and I follow the President, and so I saw a tweet that directly contradicted the position that Mr. Gardner had shared with me yesterday.
I'll say in that regard I had felt somewhat bad about not just immediately accepting Mr. Gardner's representation and sort of taking some measures to try to pin it down. I think I even indicated yesterday, and I'll indicate again today, that Mr. Gardner and every government attorney who has appeared in this case has been nothing but professional and candid with the Court. And so my attempts to pin him down yesterday were not sort of any reflection on him or what I think of his candor.
But then the tweet that I saw, which I suspect we all know the tweet I'm referring to, then caused me to think I hadn't gone far enough in terms of pinning the Government down on where things stand.
So now we have a court reporter here. I'm going to ask, frankly, the same question I asked yesterday to Mr. Gardner. Is the Government going to continue efforts to place a citizenship question on the 2020 census?
MR. GARDNER: Your Honor, this is Mr. Gardner. I want to back up just a step and say that I've been with the United States Department of Justice for 16 years, through multiple Administrations, and I've always endeavored to be as candid as possible with the Court. What I told the Court yesterday was absolutely my best understanding of the state of affairs and, apparently, also the Commerce Department's state of affairs, because you probably saw Secretary Ross issued a statement very similar to what I told the Court.
The tweet this morning was the first I had heard of the President's position on this issue, just like the plaintiffs and Your Honor. I do not have a deeper understanding of what that means at this juncture other than what the President has tweeted. But, obviously, as you can imagine, I am doing my absolute best to figure out what's going on.
I can tell you that I have confirmed that the Census Bureau is continuing with the process of printing the questionnaire without a citizenship question, and that process has not stopped.
I wonder how he's going to vote in 2020.
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