All Things Trump: Is it over yet?

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Post by Joe » Sat Jun 01, 2019 3:42 pm

What a snowflake! Maybe the Democratic Mayor of the District of Columbia should propose changing the name of Pennsylvania Avenue, so that Trump lives at 1600 McCain Avenue. :smoke:

Navy acknowledges request was made to hide USS John S. McCain during Trump visit
"A request was made to the U.S. Navy to minimize the visibility of USS John S. McCain" during President Donald Trump's recent state visit to Japan, the Navy said in a statement.

The U.S. Navy has acknowledged that a request was made to hide the USS John S. McCain during President Donald Trump's recent state visit to Japan.

"A request was made to the U.S. Navy to minimize the visibility of USS John S. McCain, however, all ships remained in their normal configuration during the President's visit," Rear Admiral Charlie Brown, chief of information, said in a statement to NBC News.

"There were also no intentional efforts to explicitly exclude Sailors assigned to USS John S. McCain," the statement said.

Acting Defense Secretary Patrick Shanahan said Friday he’d asked his chief of staff to “look into” the reported request from the White House to move the ship "out of sight" during Trump's visit.

“Our business is to run military operations and not become politicized,” Shanahan told reporters during a news conference in Singapore. “I would not have moved the ship," he added.
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Re: All Things Trump: Is it over yet?

Post by Seabass » Sat Jun 01, 2019 3:46 pm

L'Emmerdeur wrote:
Sat Jun 01, 2019 8:09 am
Hotlinking twitter images doesn't work, L'emmy. You can see them, but others can't. Stick them on Imgur or Imgbb or something...

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Post by Animavore » Sat Jun 01, 2019 4:12 pm

Here's the cheap soundbite to rouse unthinking Trump drones.

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Here's the essay which tears it apart.
http://www.stonekettle.com/2019/05/adva ... g5lyRk&m=1
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Re: All Things Trump: Is it over yet?

Post by L'Emmerdeur » Sat Jun 01, 2019 6:22 pm

Seabass wrote:
Sat Jun 01, 2019 3:46 pm
L'Emmerdeur wrote:
Sat Jun 01, 2019 8:09 am
Hotlinking twitter images doesn't work, L'emmy. You can see them, but others can't. Stick them on Imgur or Imgbb or something...

:oops: Thanks

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Post by Tero » Sat Jun 01, 2019 7:36 pm

Well you can see them if you are logged into twitter, as I am.

meanwhile
Speaking on "The Nightly Show with Larry Wilmore" in 2016, Markle called Trump misogynistic and said his politics are divisive, saying she would move to Canada if he won the presidency.
Trump responded,

"I didn't know that she was nasty. I hope she is OK. ..." He seemed to bury the hatchet saying, "I am sure she will go excellently (as a royal). She will be very good." Buckingham Palace had no comment on Trump's interview regarding Markle.
The US President also previewed his meeting with Prince Charles in the UK, where talks of climate change are expected.
"Well, we will be talking, we will be talking. I can say we have among the cleanest climate in the world right now. Our air and water are doing very well," Trump said.

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Re: All Things Trump: Is it over yet?

Post by Seabass » Sat Jun 01, 2019 7:45 pm

That ridiculous gasbag actually said that...
“We will be talking. I can say we have among the cleanest climate in the world right now.

“Our air and water are doing very well. We hope other countries can do so well. You know, it is a big atmosphere and frankly if one country is going to be bad and other countries going to be good, the country that is good gets penalized. Which is unfair.
https://nypost.com/2019/06/01/donald-tr ... about-him/

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Post by pErvinalia » Sun Jun 02, 2019 12:10 am

What a genius.
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Post by JimC » Sun Jun 02, 2019 12:44 am

He is speaking to his 30%...
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Post by Tero » Sun Jun 02, 2019 1:50 am

Trump multiple tweet:
..U.S. in order to avoid paying the 25% Tariff. Like Mexican companies will move back to the United States once the Tariff reaches the higher levels. They took many of our companies & jobs, the foolish Pols let it happen, and now they will come back unless Mexico stops the.....

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...travesty that is taking place in allowing millions of people to easily meander through their country and INVADE the U.S., not to mention the Drugs & Human Trafficking pouring in through Mexico. Are the Drug Lords, Cartels & Coyotes really running Mexico? We will soon find out!

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Trump you are an idiot. Your wall will not stop any of that and neither will tariffs. Drug lords do not pay tariffs or taxes or any of it.

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Re: All Things Trump: Is it over yet?

Post by Tero » Sun Jun 02, 2019 2:23 am

Impeach the motherfucker now! It is going to take a while. A good year for hearings.

'Impeach' chants interrupt Pelosi at California Democratic Convention

Pelosi, who has been steering her conference away from commencing proceedings to forcibly remove Trump from office after the release of special counsel Robert Mueller's report, vowed to uncover "the truth for the American people."

"Why is it that the president of the United States won't defend our democracy from this foreign threat? What is the president covering up?" the speaker said, before chants of "impeach" broke out in the convention hall. "I told you this was like coming home for me," she jested in response.

The chorus grew louder this week after Mueller's public statement in which he said his team would have explicitly stated the president did not commit a crime if it was confident he didn't. Pelosi, however, has been slow-walking the prospect of an impeachment given the divisiveness the process could cause for the country.

"We will go where the facts lead us, we will insist on the truth, we will build an ironclad case to act, because in the United States of America, no one is [above] the law," she said.

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Post by Animavore » Sun Jun 02, 2019 5:15 am

Libertarianism: The belief that out of all the terrible things governments can do, helping people is the absolute worst.

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Post by Tero » Sun Jun 02, 2019 11:12 am

On another forum:
Muualla:

A said:

McConnell will neuter any hearings.

B said: That is also not how it works. McConnell isn't the arbiter.

The House of Representatives, which does not include Mitch McConnell, must pass articles of impeachment. Normally, this would be preceded by a vote in the House Judiciary Committee, but that's part of House rules. In the case of Richard Nixon, the Judiciary Committee had been meeting for months investigating allegations against Nixon, and then debating the actual impeachment articles. Some impeachment articles were passed by the committee, which prompted Nixon's resignation.

In the case of Bill Clinton, the House Judiciary Committee conducted no investigations, and debated the articles of impeachment for a total of four hours before voting on, and passing, those articles. Those then went to the House floor 8 days later, where they passed.

At that point, it moves to a trial in the Senate. The Constitution doesn't specify much about the trial phase, except that the Chief Justice presides over the proceedings. John Roberts is the closest thing to an arbiter in the process. Other than that, the Senate rules dictate exactly how the trial goes, but it's the Chief Justice, not Mitch McConnell or the President of the Senate, which is Mike Pence, that directs the proceedings. In other words, Mitch really can't do much about it. He could, in theory, recommend a rules change to conduct the trial differently, and if the GOP senators went along with the rules change, then the Chief Justice would preside over the trial, conducted by whatever the Senate rules were in effect at the commencement of the trial.

The other arbiters, in some sense, are the senators, because they eventually take a vote. Each senator, including Mitch, gets one vote. 2/3 are required to pass.

Suppose a president did something truly horrendous, which darned near everyone agreed would justify throwing him out. The House could pass articles in an afternoon. The Senate could vote on a rule change that says the trial would consist of just a vote. If the rules change passed, they could then immediately hold a removal vote. If it passed, the president wouldn't be the president any more as soon as they declared that a 2/3 majority voted him out. The whole thing could be done in an afternoon.

Needless to say, that isn't going to happen, but the point is that the actual process may involve months of hearings, but it doesn't have to. What it really requires is a majority of the House, then 2/3 of the Senate. Everything else is dictated by rules of the House and Senate, which can be changed if they think it beneficial.


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Post by Tero » Sun Jun 02, 2019 4:52 pm

"The parties would cut right to the chase, and the substance of the Mueller report allegations—not to mention the role of Individual 1 in providing hush money on the eve of the 2016 election—would play out on live TV.

So, for example, if the House impeachment managers call Don McGahn to testify, the White House cannot rush off to court to block his attendance. The president must make his objections to the chief justice, who will issue an effectively unreviewable order on “relevancy, materiality, and redundancy.” Given the central role McGahn played in Trump’s obstruction of justice, it is hard to imagine that the chief justice would restrict him from testifying. So too for most of the key players in Volume II of the Mueller report. And unlike what the Trump administration may do in the face of adverse rulings in the lower federal courts, it seems exceedingly unlikely—even with this president—that the administration would defy a ruling by the chief justice sitting as the presiding officer in an impeachment trial."

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