JimC wrote: ↑Fri Apr 26, 2019 9:54 pm
Seabass wrote:
Well, if you think Muslims are more dangerous and destructive than Christians, then that's your view of it. You're welcome to it.
If you think Muslims kill more people than Christians do, then that's your view of it. You're welcome to it.
In the present era, that is exactly what I think, if we are being clear that we are speaking of violence and death largely motivated by religion (fully admitting much christian violence in its past). I do take your point that there are always mixed motives, but I am fairly certain that the deaths and destruction caused by western/US military actions in the last 50 years or so fairly straightforward economic/political power motives. In some participants, there might be an overlay of christian fundamentalism, but it would rarely be the main motive. In the case of jihadists, their main religious motives may also align with other political motives, but religious extremism is in the driver's seat.
That seems to me to be self-evident. The West, for lack of a better term, stopped going to war over religion a long time ago. The US has never been to war for religious reasons. And, the conflation of conflict between nations in the sense of war, with a civilian, non-state actor led guerilla war EXPRESSLY in the name of a particular religion, with the aim of spreading that religion and squashing other religions, is something Christians haven't done in ages, with some exceptions.
Islamist extremists have perpetrated 31,221 terror attacks and killed 146,811 people worldwide since 9/11, says the reputed German newspaper Die Welt in a report called "18 Years of Terror". That's an average five terror attacks. Every single day. For Eighteen years. And there have been over 3,000 attacks involving more than 12 victims, accounting for about 95,000 of the deaths.
https://www.fdesouche.com/1199257-un-jo ... 1-victimes
And, in Seabass' chart, 23% are "Islamist Extremism?" Well, they represent less than 1% of the population of the "domestic" United States. So, 1% of the population commits 23% of the Extremist Murder. That appears to be rather "disproportionate" to their overall population.....
“When I was in college, I took a terrorism class. ... The thing that was interesting in the class was every time the professor said ‘Al Qaeda’ his shoulders went up, But you know, it is that you don’t say ‘America’ with an intensity, you don’t say ‘England’ with the intensity. You don’t say ‘the army’ with the intensity,” she continued. “... But you say these names [Al Qaeda] because you want that word to carry weight. You want it to be something.” - Ilhan Omar
