The Thread of Democrats

[Seabass]

Perfect!

[pErvinalia]

Alexandria Ocasio Cortez, however, is really just moderate - in the grand scheme of things, really just sort of moderate center right.

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[Animavore]

Nailed it.

[Tyrannical]

So, 1950's US was a socialist Utopia? What happened?

[Hermit]

$35 million, 2800 subpoenas, and their big claim to fame is they snagged a sleazy D.C. lobbyist/lawyer? Now there's a legitimate use of taxpayer money.

Trump's golf trips have cost the tax payers more than that, but look at the bright side: Their claim to fame enabled 45 to accuse his caddy of hitting him in the head with one of the clubs.

[Forty Two]

Wow, can't be more full of bullshit than that cartoon...

[Seabass]

Wow, can't be more full of bullshit than that cartoon...

Yeah, we'd better find out what Laura Loomer and Mike Cernovich think...

[laklak]

$35 million, 2800 subpoenas, and their big claim to fame is they snagged a sleazy D.C. lobbyist/lawyer? Now there's a legitimate use of taxpayer money.

Trump's golf trips have cost the tax payers more than that, but look at the bright side: Their claim to fame enabled 45 to accuse his caddy of hitting him in the head with one of the clubs.

I want to be so rich that I have people who golf for me.

[L'Emmerdeur]

Say what you will, the Mueller investigation may in fact bring in more money for the feds than it spent.

We're still waiting on the final report for the last six months of the investigation, but based on the total costs outlined in the first three reports — $6.8 million, $10 million, and $8.5 million — the entire investigation could cost somewhere between $32 million and $35 million.

Mueller's investigation has also seized millions in assets.

In a plea deal with the special counsel last September, Paul Manafort, who was Trump's campaign chairman in 2016, agreed to forfeit assets estimated to be worth at least $42 million.

Manafort isn't the only one who's forfeited assets as a result of the investigation. I've read that there was an additional million plus taken from other criminals.

[JimC]

Fine them until they bleed!

[Hermit]

Wow, can't be more full of bullshit than that cartoon...

From thegolfnetnews.com: As of February 2018 the Secret Service has racked up $370,000 in golf cart rental bills ... through late 2017, the Secret Service has paid some $8,600 so far for portable toilets to use while on the ground of Trump's golf clubs. Ballistic glass is also needed, and the Secret Service has a mobile office ... The Coast Guard is required to protect nearby waterways when Trump visits Trump International Golf Club in Jupiter vis a vis Mar-a-Lago and Trump National D.C., which fronts the Potomac River. The Coast Guard cost at Mar-a-Lago is estimated to be $236,000 per day ... the hourly cost of the Presidential 747 (any plane the President is on becomes Air Force One) at $179,750. It is now estimated at $206,337 per hour, though there are classified costs the Government Accountability Office cannot reveal.

Also from thegolfnetnews.com: As of the 24th of March 2019 Trump has reportedly been on the grounds of his golf courses or played golf elsewhere 176 times since becoming President.

[JimC]

Come the revolution, all golfers will be hung from lampposts...

[Forty Two]

Wow, can't be more full of bullshit than that cartoon...

From thegolfnetnews.com: As of February 2018 the Secret Service has racked up $370,000 in golf cart rental bills ... through late 2017, the Secret Service has paid some $8,600 so far for portable toilets to use while on the ground of Trump's golf clubs. Ballistic glass is also needed, and the Secret Service has a mobile office ... The Coast Guard is required to protect nearby waterways when Trump visits Trump International Golf Club in Jupiter vis a vis Mar-a-Lago and Trump National D.C., which fronts the Potomac River. The Coast Guard cost at Mar-a-Lago is estimated to be $236,000 per day ... the hourly cost of the Presidential 747 (any plane the President is on becomes Air Force One) at $179,750. It is now estimated at $206,337 per hour, though there are classified costs the Government Accountability Office cannot reveal.

Also from thegolfnetnews.com: As of the 24th of March 2019 Trump has reportedly been on the grounds of his golf courses or played golf elsewhere 176 times since becoming President.

Under Obama, the secret service was old-school - they walked, rather than rode in golf carts, and they pissed in the rough and hazards. The waterways didn't need protection until Trump was elected.

[Hermit]

Wow, can't be more full of bullshit than that cartoon...

From thegolfnetnews.com: As of February 2018 the Secret Service has racked up $370,000 in golf cart rental bills ... through late 2017, the Secret Service has paid some $8,600 so far for portable toilets to use while on the ground of Trump's golf clubs. Ballistic glass is also needed, and the Secret Service has a mobile office ... The Coast Guard is required to protect nearby waterways when Trump visits Trump International Golf Club in Jupiter vis a vis Mar-a-Lago and Trump National D.C., which fronts the Potomac River. The Coast Guard cost at Mar-a-Lago is estimated to be $236,000 per day ... the hourly cost of the Presidential 747 (any plane the President is on becomes Air Force One) at $179,750. It is now estimated at $206,337 per hour, though there are classified costs the Government Accountability Office cannot reveal.

Also from thegolfnetnews.com: As of the 24th of March 2019 Trump has reportedly been on the grounds of his golf courses or played golf elsewhere 176 times since becoming President.

Under Obama, the secret service was old-school - they walked, rather than rode in golf carts, and they pissed in the rough and hazards. The waterways didn't need protection until Trump was elected.

That's a weird way of conceding that Trump's golf trips have cost the tax payers more than Muller's investigations after all, but thanks anyway for admitting that my assertion was not bullshit.

[Forty Two]

I didn't bother verifying the numbers. I'm sure the cost of secret service protection for the President is high on golf courses - the relevant inquiry would be a comparison between the daily cost for other activities with the daily cost of being on the golf course. We can't know if it's excessive without knowing what the cost would be if he did other things. There is a cost to secret service even when he is sitting in the oval office.