Tram Shooting in Utrecht, Netherlands?

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Re: Tram Shooting in Utrecht, Netherlands?

Post by JimC » Tue Mar 19, 2019 8:27 am

Tramist! :lay:
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Re: Tram Shooting in Utrecht, Netherlands?

Post by Scot Dutchy » Tue Mar 19, 2019 1:19 pm

The last bits:
Gökmen T., die vastzit voor de aanslag in een Utrechtse tram, was gisteren op vrije voeten omdat hij voor het gerechtshof had beloofd om mee te werken aan een persoonlijkheidsonderzoek. Dat deed hij in de verkrachtingszaak waarin hij was verwikkeld.
transalation wrote:Gökmen T. (you cant mention full name here) who is detained for the attack in the Utrecht tram, was free yesterday because he had promised the court he would cooperate with a personality study. He did this in the rape case he was involved in.
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Re: Tram Shooting in Utrecht, Netherlands?

Post by Svartalf » Tue Mar 19, 2019 9:48 pm

yeah right, he's gonna do it again until martyred in the name of islam...
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Re: Tram Shooting in Utrecht, Netherlands?

Post by rainbow » Wed Mar 20, 2019 5:59 am

JimC wrote:
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Re: Tram Shooting in Utrecht, Netherlands?

Post by NineBerry » Wed Mar 20, 2019 9:32 am

The issue is now back on rail to be treated as a terrorist incident.

Yesterday they said he had shot his wife. Now, they say there is no personal connection between the attacker and the victims. 🤔

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Re: Tram Shooting in Utrecht, Netherlands?

Post by Scot Dutchy » Wed Mar 20, 2019 9:49 am

NineBerry wrote:
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The issue is now back on rail to be treated as a terrorist incident.

Yesterday they said he had shot his wife. Now, they say there is no personal connection between the attacker and the victims. 🤔
It is no terrorist act either. It is the act of a madman who should never been on the street. The problem was he was involved in too many court cases at once in very different courts who did not know what was going on.
One court where he was appearing in a rape case allowed him free on his own promise to cooperate while in a lower police court they were trying to detain him in his absence but failed.
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Post by pErvinalia » Wed Mar 20, 2019 10:45 pm

Dutch IT systems aren't the best IT systems?? :o
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Post by Rum » Thu Mar 21, 2019 12:02 pm

pErvinalia wrote:
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Dutch IT systems aren't the best IT systems?? :o
No but they have the best madmen. :smoke:

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Re: Tram Shooting in Utrecht, Netherlands?

Post by Forty Two » Thu Mar 21, 2019 7:12 pm

Seabass wrote:
Mon Mar 18, 2019 7:06 pm
Forty Two wrote:
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No description of the shooter?

They only know he was a "man?"
You really want him to be muslimy, don't you...
Why do you say that?

I think it's more likely, given your question, that you really want him to be non-Muslim.
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Re: Tram Shooting in Utrecht, Netherlands?

Post by Seabass » Thu Mar 21, 2019 7:34 pm

Forty Two wrote:
Thu Mar 21, 2019 7:12 pm
Seabass wrote:
Mon Mar 18, 2019 7:06 pm
Forty Two wrote:
Mon Mar 18, 2019 2:09 pm
No description of the shooter?

They only know he was a "man?"
You really want him to be muslimy, don't you...
Why do you say that?

I think it's more likely, given your question, that you really want him to be non-Muslim.
I don't give a shit about his muslimness. I'm not the one that likes to build walls to keep brown people out, and I'm not the one asking for a "description of the shooter".
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Re: Tram Shooting in Utrecht, Netherlands?

Post by Animavore » Thu Mar 21, 2019 7:43 pm

Amazing how right-wingers were no were to be seen last Friday and now they're all up on this.
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Re: Tram Shooting in Utrecht, Netherlands?

Post by Forty Two » Thu Mar 21, 2019 7:53 pm

Seabass wrote:
Thu Mar 21, 2019 7:34 pm

I don't give a shit about his muslimness. I'm not the one that likes to build walls to keep brown people out, and I'm not the one asking for a "description of the shooter".
I don't give a shit about his Muslimness - other than that I oppose Islam.

I also am not one that likes to build walls to "keep brown people out." I'm also not racist enough to suggest that Mexico is synonymous with "brown people" (since most Mexicans are white).

And, I didn't ask for a description of the shooter - I found it curious that no description besides "man" was given. That seems to be the one thing they shouldn't be assuming - that he was a man - nobody knows his gender, regardless of his appearance. And, what we could know is what would be helpful - height, weight, hair color, skin color, general appearance or identifying characteristics. That wold be the helpful news, not that he was a "man."

You're the one that assumes that curiosity about a general description of shooter has something to do with his religion. That's your prejudice, not mine. Mine is more of a criticism of the media, which focuses on bullshit and irrelevancies, rather than providing information that might actually assist the public.
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Re: Tram Shooting in Utrecht, Netherlands?

Post by Forty Two » Thu Mar 21, 2019 7:55 pm

Animavore wrote:
Thu Mar 21, 2019 7:43 pm
Amazing how right-wingers were no were to be seen last Friday and now they're all up on this.
Amazing how left wingers were asking all Australians to apologize and accept guilt (as a racist society) for the one Australian who commits an atrocity ,but they never fail to rush to the aid of their beloved Islam to keep it safe from any suggestion of even having the slightest thing to do with motivating Muslims who shout Allahu Akbar as they murder people.
“When I was in college, I took a terrorism class. ... The thing that was interesting in the class was every time the professor said ‘Al Qaeda’ his shoulders went up, But you know, it is that you don’t say ‘America’ with an intensity, you don’t say ‘England’ with the intensity. You don’t say ‘the army’ with the intensity,” she continued. “... But you say these names [Al Qaeda] because you want that word to carry weight. You want it to be something.” - Ilhan Omar

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Re: Tram Shooting in Utrecht, Netherlands?

Post by Scot Dutchy » Thu Mar 21, 2019 7:55 pm

The police are saying there could be an indication of a terrorist motive.
His family are saying he was a crack head always high on cocaine and would not have a clue what a terrorist motive was.
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Re: Tram Shooting in Utrecht, Netherlands?

Post by JimC » Thu Mar 21, 2019 8:13 pm

Forty Two wrote:
Thu Mar 21, 2019 7:55 pm
Animavore wrote:
Thu Mar 21, 2019 7:43 pm
Amazing how right-wingers were no were to be seen last Friday and now they're all up on this.
Amazing how left wingers were asking all Australians to apologize and accept guilt (as a racist society) for the one Australian who commits an atrocity ,but they never fail to rush to the aid of their beloved Islam to keep it safe from any suggestion of even having the slightest thing to do with motivating Muslims who shout Allahu Akbar as they murder people.
Evidence for left wingers calling for an Australian apology?
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