US Election 2020

[Joe]

And yet evidence from indictments is suspect.

[Hermit]

To be fair, to date none of the indictments concern Russian collusion.

[Joe]

True, but they do address Russian hacking, which is what our friend is trying to discredit with articles from conspiracy sites.

[L'Emmerdeur]

To be fair, the Global Research link was thrown in with a few others (including another Global Research 'no Russian hacking!!' link) by Forty Two in a post that was aimed at demonstrating how untrustworthy the CIA and the NSA are. Not that either one of the Global Research pieces did much to further that claim. On the other hand the article from The Nation was quoted at great length in support of the 'Hacking of the DNC? I don't think so' position.

Despite unsupportable claims like 'The intelligence community says that no votes were changed - and no actually effect on the election occurred,' I do think that his position has evolved, which is commendable.

[JimC]

...I do think that his position has evolved, which is commendable...

We have an atheist saint here, folks...

[Joe]

To be fair, the Global Research link was thrown in with a few others (including another Global Research 'no Russian hacking!!' link) by Forty Two in a post that was aimed at demonstrating how untrustworthy the CIA and the NSA are. Not that either one of the Global Research pieces did much to further that claim. On the other hand the article from The Nation was quoted at great length in support of the 'Hacking of the DNC? I don't think so' position.

Despite unsupportable claims like 'The intelligence community says that no votes were changed - and no actually effect on the election occurred,' I do think that his position has evolved, which is commendable.

Yes, I looked up the post in which the Global Research piece was cited, but did you actually follow the links in the Global Research piece back to the original source? Did you meet the Forensicator, and read his analysis? As an IT guy, the basis of the hypothesis fell apart for me in the first few paragraphs, and other IT professionals tore it apart as well.

But the icing on the cake is that the Forensicator, and the other expert cited, were anonymous. Given our friend's antipathy toward anonymous sources, that's pretty puzzling when juxtaposed with the hoops he's jumped through to dismiss what was put forth in indictments by publicly known prosecutors bearing the burden of proof beyond a reasonable doubt, don't you think?

Forty Two's evolving position and whether it is commendable or just goalpost moving notwithstanding, I believe my reaction is perfectly fair.

[Tero]

You are still reading him? I just read the first and last line. Same old same old.

[Joe]

I read as much of the board as I have time for, and occasionally dive into the sources for my own edification.

[Animavore]

[JimC]

Well, I'll support one of those...

[Jason]

Free tacos and abolishing Jesus sound nice.

[Svartalf]

Well, I'll support one of those...

I don't get how you can abolish something that likeliy never existed, and putting halal into tacos is spoiling 3/4 of the fun... gimme a good al pastor any day.

[JimC]

By abolishing Jesus I mean that it is forbidden to mention his name, and any attempt to do so means that you are sent to the re-education camps...

[tattuchu]

The gay requirement... does that include butt stuff? Because I don't like butt stuff

[Tero]

No, just oral sex. To women and bosses.