JimC wrote: ↑Sat Feb 02, 2019 7:47 am
Cunt wrote:
And because I don't support some vague tax change, you would call me a denialist.
I accept that climate is changing, and that scientists are shit at predicting weather.
I accept that humans contribute to climate change with their activities and that politicians endlessly leverage issues like this one to push other agendas.
You go ahead and accept what you think is worth accepting, but if you want me to accept it, your going to have to stop pretending to be the moral majority.
I think you misunderstand me, possibly wilfully.
I castigated you for making incorrect statements on the basic science and energy usage patterns. When dealing with the factual science stuff, you need to know what you are talking about.
However, I make no claim to having the one, correct political solution to work effectively against climate change. There are a range of potential actions that will potentially help, both technological and economic. The choice we make is a political debate, that ought to involve widespread conversations from people all over the world. The only true necessity is that those conversations need to be backed up by facts, and evidence-based science.
I didn't make a claim that the most energy was used by aviation. The claim I made was that this use was my experience with 'biggest use'.
I haven't worked in power generation, so don't have a 'feel' for how much they use. I try to connect things with my experience. It's why, rather than just saying 'all climate scientists agree', like some kind of chorus-girl, I go spend time with life-long field geologists, policy-makers and government officiels. I try to understand what I can, and what is connected to me.
Some of the 'green push' is hilariously bad, to me, where someone living in a city with support would see it as automatic.
Being on a 'frontier' really reveals some of the idiocy around these debates. While people argue the pipeline, I see endless trucks spilling all over the highways and remember the 'bigger picture' usually shits on the frontiers.
You see my opposition as some kind of denialism, but you probably can't imagine what it means for the power plant to fail while you are visiting a tiny, remote community as a stranger. It gives a different perspective, especially if you start liking some individual humans in that place.
When you take a shot at me for being in a different position than you on some of these issues, you might want to remember that I might be motivated to protect people you haven't even considered. We can get very different answers depending on whether you want to protect the population of Tulita (500 or so) or if the population of Adelaide has more of your protective instincts. It probably makes sense to value the concerns of Adelaide a hundred times more that the concerns of Tulita, but there I am.
Ridiculous.
But it's just one reason we might have different perspectives. If you ever wanted to change my mind about something, you would probably have to understand my motivations and understanding of the issue.
But if you just want to show off how much smarter you are, I understand, and have at it.
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