That's the point. You'll look for other alternatives to fossil fuels to handle your heating, as fossil fuels become more expensive.Jason wrote: ↑Wed Jan 30, 2019 6:31 pmI'm all for fighting climate change through effective policy making, but this carbon tax does nothing but add another $20 to my monthly heating bill and I have a small house.
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Batteries and pumped hydro will take care of that.Cunt wrote: ↑Wed Jan 30, 2019 7:17 pmFuck, pErvinalia just told me that Germany was doing well. Not saying that because he was right or wrong, but because the information isn't nearly as clear as one would think.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/jamesconca ... 740fcf68e1
As Peter Rez at Arizona State University discusses, renewables will not make much of a dent in their total carbon emissions. The problem is that even when renewables produce enough energy to supply all of the country’s electricity, the variability of the renewables means Germany has to keep the coal plants running, over half of which use the dirtiest of all coal, lignite.
Again, what's your solution to the crisis? Or are you just going to continue being a denier?For me, I think the government is overfed already. Giving them another reason to tax everyone won't improve anything but the size of the bureaucracy.
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Alan C wrote:Incomprehensible.Calilasseia wrote:Meanwhile, the latest example of shit flinging from the know-nothing, bloviating trust fund leech consists of this piece of blatantly moronic self-aggrandising.
But of course, this is another product of the fact that Trump, insulated from reality by Daddy's money, lives full time in the world of the television inside his otherwise empty head.
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"They want to take away your hamburgers. This is what Stalin dreamt about but never achieved." —Sebastian Gorka
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There are two options for heat where I live. Electric or natural gas. Natural gas is much more efficient. I'm at maximum efficiency given my material realities.pErvinalia wrote: ↑Wed Jan 30, 2019 10:26 pmThat's the point. You'll look for other alternatives to fossil fuels to handle your heating, as fossil fuels become more expensive.Jason wrote: ↑Wed Jan 30, 2019 6:31 pmI'm all for fighting climate change through effective policy making, but this carbon tax does nothing but add another $20 to my monthly heating bill and I have a small house.
I'm suggesting that this market pressure, as you might have it, hits low incomes living in rental units the hardest. Major chances such as installing solar panels are a 10 year investment that you 1) may not be allowed to make on your rental and 2)you may not be in that rental unit long enough to recoup your investment even if you are.
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Your ideas for subsidising the tax are good. But it doesn't change the fact that a tax is needed to alter behaviour.
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Mueller hacked
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Certain non-sensitive discovery materials in the defense's possession appear to have been altered and disseminated as part of a disinformation campaign aimed (apparently) at discrediting ongoing investigations into Russian interference in the U.S. political system," prosecutors wrote.
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Certain non-sensitive discovery materials in the defense's possession appear to have been altered and disseminated as part of a disinformation campaign aimed (apparently) at discrediting ongoing investigations into Russian interference in the U.S. political system," prosecutors wrote.
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Not true. I 'advocated' a something earlier. If you missed it, it might show you why you keep imagining me wrong.pErvinalia wrote: ↑Wed Jan 30, 2019 10:24 pmSo you advocate doing nothing to address climate change.
You are dying to use 'denier'. Do it if it sooths you.You may as well confirm your denier status.
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Lots of folks up here burn wood instead of fossil fuels.pErvinalia wrote: ↑Wed Jan 30, 2019 10:26 pmThat's the point. You'll look for other alternatives to fossil fuels to handle your heating, as fossil fuels become more expensive.
Hey, it's renewable! Fuck carbon taxes, they are for greedy carbon-spewing assholes!
Except, maybe burning wood is putting more carbon into the air than if they were burning oil...
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It’s more the energy efficiency I would compare. Natural gas furnaces, due to all the air passes through, are quite good and little heat goes out the chimney.
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Wisconsin conned by Trump and Chinese
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Cunt wrote:Not true. I 'advocated' a something earlier. If you missed it, it might show you why you keep imagining me wrong.pErvinalia wrote: ↑Wed Jan 30, 2019 10:24 pmSo you advocate doing nothing to address climate change.
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go dig it up if you care. I don't. You constantly want to point me as something I'm not.pErvinalia wrote: ↑Thu Jan 31, 2019 2:36 amCunt wrote:Not true. I 'advocated' a something earlier. If you missed it, it might show you why you keep imagining me wrong.pErvinalia wrote: ↑Wed Jan 30, 2019 10:24 pmSo you advocate doing nothing to address climate change.
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It was a vid of Jordan Peterson, where he pointed out that raising people out of poverty would enable them to make better decisions about being environmentally friendly.
Desperation and hunger lead to burning wood. Wealth and a good home is more likely natural gas or more efficient systems.
It isn't the whole picture, but it IS something I would get behind.
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Already addressed that as a bad solution.Cunt wrote: ↑Thu Jan 31, 2019 4:49 amgo dig it up if you care. I don't. You constantly want to point me as something I'm not.pErvinalia wrote: ↑Thu Jan 31, 2019 2:36 amCunt wrote:Not true. I 'advocated' a something earlier. If you missed it, it might show you why you keep imagining me wrong.pErvinalia wrote: ↑Wed Jan 30, 2019 10:24 pmSo you advocate doing nothing to address climate change.
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It was a vid of Jordan Peterson, where he pointed out that raising people out of poverty would enable them to make better decisions about being environmentally friendly.
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"Socialized medicine is just exactly as morally defensible as gassing and cooking Jews" - Seth. Yes, he really did say that..
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Good of you to share your opinion.pErvinalia wrote: ↑Thu Jan 31, 2019 5:25 amAlready addressed that as a bad solution.Cunt wrote: ↑Thu Jan 31, 2019 4:49 amgo dig it up if you care. I don't. You constantly want to point me as something I'm not.pErvinalia wrote: ↑Thu Jan 31, 2019 2:36 amCunt wrote:Not true. I 'advocated' a something earlier. If you missed it, it might show you why you keep imagining me wrong.pErvinalia wrote: ↑Wed Jan 30, 2019 10:24 pmSo you advocate doing nothing to address climate change.
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It was a vid of Jordan Peterson, where he pointed out that raising people out of poverty would enable them to make better decisions about being environmentally friendly.
But the point was that you said I advocated doing nothing. I pointed you to something I would advocate.
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