BREXIT! BREXIT! BREXIT!

[rainbow]

Never mind the hundreds who die in the Mediterranean trying to get here, eh?

Today the EU have stated directly that a ‘no deal’ exit will mean a hard border in Ireland. The twats who voted ‘leave’ didn’t seem particularly excercised about hat did they/

Given some splinter IRA group let off a bomb in Londonderry the other day,the lid of Pandora’s box creaks just a tad...

How will the EU enforce that, particularly if the Irish authorities (who don't want a hard border either) quietly look the other way?

Goon squads of German paramilitaries?

No, any truck crossing the border will have to have a customs declaration. They can be sent back by the Irish, if it's not in order - but most likely there will be some leniency at first.

I expect that there will be no hindrance to private cars going over the border.

[Brian Peacock]

It's not as simple as instituting some form of customs border between the territories though is it(?) There's an international peace agreement, The Good-Friday Agreement, which requires that the UK and Eire maintain an open border between NI and the republic. That cannot be f'nurkled away for political convenience.

[Scot Dutchy]

I remember the border and all the customs carry on before the EU in the old EEC days. It could take an hour to get through even at the Belgium-Dutch border.
They may start making spot checks on private cars especially regarding papers. I remember the dread of being picked out coming out of a ferry. Dont start being smart remember you have to pack everything yourself which many smart Alec discovered especially when towing a boat or caravan.

[Brian Peacock]

French firms with UK ties told to look for alternatives as Brexit looms

French businesses working with British contractors or suppliers should now be actively seeking out alternatives, the French government has said, as it further ramped up preparations for a no-deal Brexit that it sees as increasingly likely.

“Let’s not panic, but let’s prepare for different scenarios,” the Europe minister, Nathalie Loiseau, said on Friday as she unveiled a 28-page booklet for companies with British ties, which advises them to adopt the UK’s wartime motto and “keep calm and carry on”.

Companies reliant on UK business partners should explore other options outside Britain, while those with UK-based operations in specific EU-regulated sectors such as pharmaceuticals should think about moving them to the continent, the guidance says...

Seems fair enough. Daily Mail OUTRAGED!!!

[Brian Peacock]

So Parliament has voted for the government to re-negotiate its negotiated deal with the EU, which says there can be no re-negotiation on the contentious issue -- customs checks at the NI/Eire border in the event of a no-deal Brexit. The integrity of the single market is not something the European Union is going to allow to be undermined, which the Brexiteers are fully aware of. Thus we are one stop closer to a no-deal Brexit than we were yesterday.

Time to start stockpiling the tins.

[Rum]

The fucking carry on with the malarky has been so tortuous I have not bothered posting in this thread lately. What an utter shambles.

[JimC]

Still time to buy that ticket to Oz, guys...

[rainbow]

In dramatic scenes last night, Parliament voted for Theresa May to return to Brussels and repeat their offer loudly and slowly until the foreigners get it.

https://newsthump.com/2019/01/30/britai ... jAJQmOdIsY

[Scot Dutchy]

I agree Rum. I just give up. Cant those idiots get it through their head. The EU has said no renegotiation of a deal already negotiated.
That is exactly what the EU does not want. Once broken open the Brexiteers would milk it for all they want.

[Scot Dutchy]

In dramatic scenes last night, Parliament voted for Theresa May to return to Brussels and repeat their offer loudly and slowly until the foreigners get it.

https://newsthump.com/2019/01/30/britai ... jAJQmOdIsY

That is just too funny for words.

[Rum]

I agree Rum. I just give up. Cant those idiots get it through their head. The EU has said no renegotiation of a deal already negotiated.
That is exactly what the EU does not want. Once broken open the Brexiteers would milk it for all they want.

Oh I’m sure they will negotiate if required. It is in their interests to do so.

The problem it seems to me is that there is actually no solution. The sticking point is Ireland of course. If we remain in the customs union the border problem is solved, but many people take the view that this isn’t leaving ‘properly’ as we would not be free to trade elsewhere as we choose. However if we do leave the customs union then in due course there will have to be a border in Ireland, with all the risks that go with that.

It is an insoluble conundrum as this currently stand.

[Scot Dutchy]

There is nothing to negotiate. The deal was done. End of...

[rainbow]

The EU has responded to news that the British Parliament had voted for Theresa May to seek changes to the backstop in surprisingly strident fashion.

https://newsthump.com/2019/01/30/oh-wil ... 4zKHYOW6_M

[Rum]

There is nothing to negotiate. The deal was done. End of...

Yes, but you would say that wouldn’t you?

If the UK has a disorderly exit it isn’t only our politicians who will feel the brunt of public anger here, but those in Europe who represent people who have trade ties here will also have somewhat miffed constituents.

[Scot Dutchy]

Please dont compare. The EU says it and that is all that matters. What Brexiteers say is of little importance.
Do you really think the EU would break open the deal? Really??? For what a bit of sci-fi? You are joking.