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Re: Individual-1, a joke or a threat? (talk Trump)

Post by Cunt » Fri Jan 04, 2019 9:43 pm

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Cunt logic:

Walling off a house is the same as walling off a country.
Walls work to prevent access. In houses, or on borders.

I just heard a border patrol agent say so. He suggested that such a physical barrier reduced illegal traffic (humans and drugs) by a lot.

Should I believe you, a clear NPC Trump-hater like Tero? Or a guy who really has to work in enforcement on the border?

News coverage of Putin's malign behavior = anti-Russian racism.
Nope, I don't know about his malign behaviour. I do know that once I started making friends in Russia, a lot of what the media pushes stopped making sense.

The corporate owned, profit-driven mainstream media has a left-wing bias.

:what:
Instead of just pretending it aint so, how about figuring out a way to identify bias in media, then checking?

I mean, you can probably spot bias in Fox News, but it stands to reason that you would have a much harder time seeing it in news stations that agree with you.

That's what bias is.

The US budget has billions in foreign aid. Why not take that?

I also heard a funny, which would work. Someone suggested that Trump put a large tax on wire transfers going to Mexico, and fund the wall that way.

I think he should just build it wherever it makes sense, but to the Dems (who honestly said the wall was an 'immorality') even one dollar can't be put into that kind of border security.
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Re: Individual-1, a joke or a threat? (talk Trump)

Post by Forty Two » Fri Jan 04, 2019 9:59 pm

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and the relation to what I said is what exactlY was the Clinton foundation the management organisation for hillbillary's campaign funds? heck, given that both of them studied at yale, odds are they were filthy rich even before college, let alone since.
Hillary said they left the White House dead broke. You aren't calling Hillary a liar, are you?

And contrary to the European view on it, you really don't have to be wealthy to go to college. Bill wasn't wealthy - he was whip smart and academically successful. Hillary's family had some shekels. But they weren't super-rich by any measure. Neither was Obama.

It's really a misconception that American Presidents come from the wealthy class. The Bushes, the Roosevelts and Kennedys were blue bloods, sure. But Obama, Bill Clinton, Ron Reagan, Jimmy Carter, Gerald Ford, Richard Nixon, Lyndon Johnson, Dwight Eisenhower, Harry Truman all were from middle class or even lower class families. The Founding Fathers, Washington, Adams, Jefferson, and Madison were all wealthy, yes, but after that, you've got a host of folks born to poor and lower class families. Guys like Marty Van Buren, Abe Lincoln, William Henry Harrison, Millard Fillmore, Ulysses Grant, James Garfield, Herbert Hoover, Andrew Johnson were all born into poverty. At least 1/3 of the Presidents were middle and below as children.
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Post by Forty Two » Fri Jan 04, 2019 10:06 pm

Best manufacturing numbers in 20+ years.... https://www.cnbc.com/2019/01/04/manufac ... -1997.html

The Dow rages up 747 points.

So, since Trump was blamed for the shaky stock market last month, is this still Obama's upswing, or is it Trump's now?
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Post by Svartalf » Fri Jan 04, 2019 10:19 pm

Forty Two wrote:
Fri Jan 04, 2019 9:59 pm
Svartalf wrote:
Fri Jan 04, 2019 8:00 pm
and the relation to what I said is what exactlY was the Clinton foundation the management organisation for hillbillary's campaign funds? heck, given that both of them studied at yale, odds are they were filthy rich even before college, let alone since.
Hillary said they left the White House dead broke. You aren't calling Hillary a liar, are you?

And contrary to the European view on it, you really don't have to be wealthy to go to college. Bill wasn't wealthy - he was whip smart and academically successful. Hillary's family had some shekels. But they weren't super-rich by any measure. Neither was Obama.

It's really a misconception that American Presidents come from the wealthy class. The Bushes, the Roosevelts and Kennedys were blue bloods, sure. But Obama, Bill Clinton, Ron Reagan, Jimmy Carter, Gerald Ford, Richard Nixon, Lyndon Johnson, Dwight Eisenhower, Harry Truman all were from middle class or even lower class families. The Founding Fathers, Washington, Adams, Jefferson, and Madison were all wealthy, yes, but after that, you've got a host of folks born to poor and lower class families. Guys like Marty Van Buren, Abe Lincoln, William Henry Harrison, Millard Fillmore, Ulysses Grant, James Garfield, Herbert Hoover, Andrew Johnson were all born into poverty. At least 1/3 of the Presidents were middle and below as children.
She's a politician, of course she's a liar... I mean, they left the WH 'dead broke' in 2000, and 15 years later, if I believe wiki, her personal and independent of Bill's net worth was around $45M... yeah, right, perfectly believable, sure she got a senator's pay, which I don't guess to be peanuts, but given the lifestyle she's both used and expected to have, I guess it would be barely enough, if at all... so she may have completed that with speeches and lectures and the odd book or two, and given the deal given the Obamas for their books, that may be nonnegligible moolah, but 45M??? how did she get that much?
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Re: Individual-1, a joke or a threat? (talk Trump)

Post by Forty Two » Fri Jan 04, 2019 10:34 pm

She's a liar? Well, if she got elected, we'd have to impeach her, then. That and all her collusion with foreigners, email server issues, and donation issues would all be grounds for impeachment.

Senators get $174,000 per year, plus benefits. How did she get so much, indeed. Take a quick look around on that issue. Tell me what you find out.
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Post by Cunt » Fri Jan 04, 2019 10:36 pm

Svartalf wrote:
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She's a politician, of course she's a liar... I mean, they left the WH 'dead broke' in 2000, and 15 years later, if I believe wiki, her personal and independent of Bill's net worth was around $45M... yeah, right, perfectly believable, sure she got a senator's pay, which I don't guess to be peanuts, but given the lifestyle she's both used and expected to have, I guess it would be barely enough, if at all... so she may have completed that with speeches and lectures and the odd book or two, and given the deal given the Obamas for their books, that may be nonnegligible moolah, but 45M??? how did she get that much?
She got that much because everyone was distracted by 'Russian Collusion' and Trump, so she was free to do whatever the fuck she wanted.

I think the donations dropping off so sharply for her and Bills 'Foundation' is pretty convincing evidence that she was getting money for reasons which disappeared when she lost the election.

I wish people would look into her with as much fervor as they are looking into Trump.

See, with the corruption investigations going so hot, I would expect that they will find PLENTY of corruption. When they do, the Reps will blame the Dems, and the Dems will blame the Reps.

And the voters will not blame the politicians.
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Post by pErvinalia » Fri Jan 04, 2019 10:56 pm

Cunt wrote:
Fri Jan 04, 2019 10:36 pm
Svartalf wrote:
Fri Jan 04, 2019 10:19 pm
She's a politician, of course she's a liar... I mean, they left the WH 'dead broke' in 2000, and 15 years later, if I believe wiki, her personal and independent of Bill's net worth was around $45M... yeah, right, perfectly believable, sure she got a senator's pay, which I don't guess to be peanuts, but given the lifestyle she's both used and expected to have, I guess it would be barely enough, if at all... so she may have completed that with speeches and lectures and the odd book or two, and given the deal given the Obamas for their books, that may be nonnegligible moolah, but 45M??? how did she get that much?
She got that much because everyone was distracted by 'Russian Collusion' and Trump, so she was free to do whatever the fuck she wanted.

I think the donations dropping off so sharply for her and Bills 'Foundation' is pretty convincing evidence that she was getting money for reasons which disappeared when she lost the election.

I wish people would look into her with as much fervor as they are looking into Trump.
One is president of the US, and the other a private citizen. Surely even you can see the difference.
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Post by Cunt » Fri Jan 04, 2019 11:03 pm

pErvinalia wrote:
Fri Jan 04, 2019 10:56 pm
Cunt wrote:
Fri Jan 04, 2019 10:36 pm
wish people would look into her with as much fervor as they are looking into Trump.
One is president of the US, and the other a private citizen. Surely even you can see the difference.
I guess it doesn't matter that donations were very high while she was Secretary of State, and good during her campaign, then fell off when she couldn't deliver presidential favours.

She is a private citizen, so getting fat rich off donations to her while she was not a private citizen is fine.

Also, she might have wiped that server, but it was just dusting it off...like with a rag.

She's of no interest to those seeking corruption. Only currently successful politicians are suitable for examination.
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Post by Cunt » Fri Jan 04, 2019 11:15 pm

so roughly a 5% raise since 2013? Not exactly outrageous, is it?

I mean, the fact that they make way over 100,000 taxbucks a year is outrageous, but the raises they are getting are in line with what I expect in new salary negotiations.

I would like to tie government workers salaries to welfare recipients allottment. If they want a raise for themselves, raise the bottom-most people up with them, or fuck off.
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Post by pErvinalia » Fri Jan 04, 2019 11:21 pm

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I would like to tie government workers salaries to welfare recipients allottment. If they want a raise for themselves, raise the bottom-most people up with them, or fuck off.
I fucking like that!
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pErvinalia wrote:
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I would like to tie government workers salaries to welfare recipients allottment. If they want a raise for themselves, raise the bottom-most people up with them, or fuck off.
I fucking like that!
I want it not because welfare recipients deserve more (shiftless fucks often DO NOT deserve any more) but to underscore how they are basically the same level of productivity, value and use.
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Post by pErvinalia » Fri Jan 04, 2019 11:36 pm

Yeah right. Not more than a few minutes ago did you state in another thread: if you don't respect any politicians, you should do the job yourself..
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Post by Svartalf » Fri Jan 04, 2019 11:42 pm

well, I don't res^pect any politician and the reasons I don't do the job myself are , among others
a) it's a democracy, I have to get idiots to vote for me and I m not ready to sink to their level to win approval
b)it's a rich man's game, campaigning and being a candidate is costly, and you get refunds only if you follow any number of rules and get enough votes
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Post by pErvinalia » Fri Jan 04, 2019 11:44 pm

I think the political system is inherently corrupting. Doesn't matter how good and pure a candidate starts out as, they will always turn to the dark side eventually.
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