Should Communism Be Declared A Criminal Ideology?

[Rum]

It's tough for folks who aren't allowed to carry even a knife around, if it looks dangerous...

Not as tough, I suspect as sending your kids to school wondering if today will be the day a mass killer shoots a few dozen of his or her friends.

Oh - that is 57 times more than the combined G8 countries. About one a week - slightly more and, though I am sure it is acceptable to one of your way of thinking in total twice as many as have been killed in wars you either started or joined in with.

I don't know what is 57 times more than combined g8 countries, or what that has to do with a persons right to defend themselves.

You must be using English, but I don't follow your 'logic', Rum.

Do people have a right to defend themselves? When do you think it is right to take away that right?

You are so full of shit.

[Hermit]

Just look at happy first world nations. They are not capitalist. Mind you 42 would not want to live in a happy country.

They are capitalist. Western Europe is capitalist, especially the happiest ones, like Norway, Sweden and Denmark, which prospered through economic liberalization, and not through socialism.

Denmark's Prime Minister chastised Bernie Sanders for continually referring to Denmark as socialist - https://www.thelocal.dk/20151101/danish ... -socialist

Sweden has among the freest economies in the world, and ranks above the US in economic freedom - i.e., it's more capitalist than the US. https://fee.org/articles/should-america ... edish-way/ From about 1960 to 1990, the US went more socialist in government policies, but when it experienced stagnation and other economic issues, it reversed that course in the 1990s, and it was the economic liberalization and fostering of free market capitalism that made Sweden economically viable.

Norway and the rest of the nordic countries are free market capitalists, and pro free trade - https://thehill.com/opinion/finance/402 ... ade-lovers

The difference is that social democracy is not democratic socialism. We've been over this before, but in short - social democracy is economically capitalist, with a social safety net. Democratic socialism is a socialist economic system where decisions are made by majority vote. The difference between capitalist and socialist is that in socialism the means of production and property are held primarily by the State, whereas in capitalism they're held primarily by the people.

Germany isn't socialist. The UK is not socialist. Canada is not socialist. Oz is not socialist.

All the best countries in the world are capitalist economies.

All the best countries in the world are mixed economies. Take Denmark, for instance. In the link you provided, the Danish Prime Minister Lars Løkke Rasmussen is quoted as saying:

The Nordic model is an expanded welfare state which provides a high level of security for its citizens ... We have universal health coverage - you don’t pay to see your doctor or go to the hospital. ... We also have a strong and free educational system. Students in institutions for higher education and university do not pay for their education, on the contrary they receive educational grants for studying. ... high taxes. The top income tax in Denmark is almost 60 percent. We have a 25 percent sales tax and on cars the incise duties are up to 180 percent.

Basically, Rasmussen is saying that Denmark is not a socialist country in so far as - and here I quote him from your link again - "Denmark is far from a socialist planned economy".

[Hermit]

It's tough for folks who aren't allowed to carry even a knife around, if it looks dangerous...

Not as tough, I suspect as sending your kids to school wondering if today will be the day a mass killer shoots a few dozen of his or her friends.

Oh - that is 57 times more than the combined G8 countries. About one a week - slightly more and, though I am sure it is acceptable to one of your way of thinking in total twice as many as have been killed in wars you either started or joined in with.

I don't know what is 57 times more than combined g8 countries, or what that has to do with a persons right to defend themselves.

You must be using English, but I don't follow your 'logic', Rum.

Do people have a right to defend themselves? When do you think it is right to take away that right?

You are so full of shit.

In his own idiosyncratic way he's channelling Seth.

[Rum]

Seth had a certain rigor and consistency about his point of view, however distasteful it actually was.

[Hermit]

Seth had a certain rigor and consistency about his point of view, however distasteful it actually was.

True. He was rather more articulate to boot. He also lacked Yellowknife man's passive aggression.

[Scot Dutchy]

I would not call it the Nordic model. Norway is not a good example due to its massive oil wealth which it has handled well for the whole of the nation. I would term it as the Northern European model. If you think this country is small then Denmark is miniscule.
The basis of Northern European countries is social democracy. An alien beast to the Americans and one totally beyond their comprehension. The simple phrase; "the right to defend" does not belong in a social democratic state. The phrase; "society protects" is more applicable. This once again is total alien to the American mind set.
Here in Northern Europe we expect services from the state and are willing to pay for them. We expect a fair tax regime where the broadest shoulders take the strain. We expect a good health system free at point application. A good fair free education system where every child gets a similar fair opportunity. We also expect a system of social services looking after the vulnerable of society.
All these services and their application is part of socialist society and have nothing to do with capitalism. We are willing to work but do not want to be exploited. Here people dont work all the hours possible. Life is more than just work. We want to enjoy it and demand it. Something lost on American ears.

[laklak]

Ah, you bunch of Euro-drones would think like that. We're 'Murikans, By God! We bow to no Kings and fuck your taxes!

Eventually we'll kill all the snowflake pinkos and get back to being Real Men.

[Sean Hayden]

I really don't think it's fair to compare Europe's gated communities to a real country like the US. I mean, our country club citizens are very happy and healthy too.

[Cunt]

Sure they do. If they really want to be safe though, they might consider giving up their right to bear arms. If it is truly about protecting ourselves, then we should discuss why having so many guns has failed to make us safer, and why it has failed to protect us from say, other guns.

Depends how you count things, I guess.

Some folks think that if you don't vote the way they tell you, that you are destroying the planet (which is possibly worse than shooting a few neighbours)

I think individuals have the right to protect themselves. Even if those around them disagree. Is that so hard to understand?

Do people have a right to defend themselves? When do you think it is right to take away that right?

You are so full of shit.

Your tact is only exceeded by your kowtowing to your government directives.

[Rum]

I would not call it the Nordic model. Norway is not a good example due to its massive oil wealth which it has handled well for the whole of the nation. I would term it as the Northern European model. If you think this country is small then Denmark is miniscule.
The basis of Northern European countries is social democracy. An alien beast to the Americans and one totally beyond their comprehension. The simple phrase; "the right to defend" does not belong in a social democratic state. The phrase; "society protects" is more applicable. This once again is total alien to the American mind set.
Here in Northern Europe we expect services from the state and are willing to pay for them. We expect a fair tax regime where the broadest shoulders take the strain. We expect a good health system free at point application. A good fair free education system where every child gets a similar fair opportunity. We also expect a system of social services looking after the vulnerable of society.
All these services and their application is part of socialist society and have nothing to do with capitalism. We are willing to work but do not want to be exploited. Here people dont work all the hours possible. Life is more than just work. We want to enjoy it and demand it. Something lost on American ears.

Very well put if I may say so. Cunt and his kind are blinded by utterly out of date assumptions about what a state can and cannot be.

[Scot Dutchy]

I would not call it the Nordic model. Norway is not a good example due to its massive oil wealth which it has handled well for the whole of the nation. I would term it as the Northern European model. If you think this country is small then Denmark is miniscule.
The basis of Northern European countries is social democracy. An alien beast to the Americans and one totally beyond their comprehension. The simple phrase; "the right to defend" does not belong in a social democratic state. The phrase; "society protects" is more applicable. This once again is total alien to the American mind set.
Here in Northern Europe we expect services from the state and are willing to pay for them. We expect a fair tax regime where the broadest shoulders take the strain. We expect a good health system free at point application. A good fair free education system where every child gets a similar fair opportunity. We also expect a system of social services looking after the vulnerable of society.
All these services and their application is part of socialist society and have nothing to do with capitalism. We are willing to work but do not want to be exploited. Here people dont work all the hours possible. Life is more than just work. We want to enjoy it and demand it. Something lost on American ears.

Very well put if I may say so. Cunt and his kind are blinded by utterly out of date assumptions about what a state can and cannot be.

Very nice of you squire. I would buy you pint to cheer you up if I could.

[laklak]

In a plastic sippy cup, in case you try to glass someone. Probably get some bite-sized appetizers to go with it. Have to be bite sized because they won't let you have a knife.

[Rum]

We Europeans envy the freedom you have in America of course. If only our capitalsts had the free reign to exploit us, poison us, inject our meat with chemicals, add sugar to everything possible, drill in what’s left of our wilderness and allow us to shoot each other willy nilly like you guys can, we’d be much much happier.

[laklak]

Yeah I know y'all envy our gunz and pick up trucks. How the hell you spotlight illegal criminals if you ain't got a pick up? And without a gun all y'all can do is say "Please leave our fair land!" in a stern voice. We jes shoot em an dump em in a wood chipper. Meximulch.

[Sean Hayden]