Rum wrote: ↑Mon Nov 05, 2018 5:17 pm
I haven't been following this thread so forgive me if this has been raised before. I was listening to the BBC World Service this afternoon, covering the run-up to the elections.
One Trump supporter said that he (and quite a lot of other Trumpian Republics) actually believe that the migrant 'caravan' has been populated/ infiltrated by ISIS fighters from the Middle East/South Asia area and that it was part of their plan to create mayhem in the USA.
I'm not discounting the possibility of the odd terrorist crossing the border under that sort of guise, but the level of hype and hysteria over this non-issue really quite shocked me.
Is this really the level to which debate has sunk in the USA these days?
No, because you really don't hear it that way over here. The message here is that such unvetted populations could be a means where others get into the country. I haven't heard hysteria about it.
The main thrust of the Honduran caravan is that it is 5 or 10 thousand people who just so happened to pick now to break into Mexico forcibly, attack police and military while doing it, and then drive on trucks and buses through Mexico (paid for by various organizations) and their intent is to force their way into the United States as economic migrants without filing normal visa applications.
One does not have to be hysterical or outraged to be against that sort of thing, or to view it as a significant problem. If 5000 north African migrants were busing through France to get to the Chunnel and force their way into England, I would venture to bet that there would be some reasonable opposition to it. And, it's not just the 5,000 - it's the precedent that's set. If they can get in, then why not the next group, and the next, and the next.
The media hype masks that what Trump says about the migrants is exactly right. They call him a liar by mischaracterizing what he actually says if you hear him talk. And his policy is workable, but the Democrats are advancing political vomit - talking about "abolishing Immigration and Customs Enforcement" and bleating on about how we'd let all the economic migrants in without question if we were a caring and nice nation. Everyone using their brain knows you can't have a country with a border like that.
“When I was in college, I took a terrorism class. ... The thing that was interesting in the class was every time the professor said ‘Al Qaeda’ his shoulders went up, But you know, it is that you don’t say ‘America’ with an intensity, you don’t say ‘England’ with the intensity. You don’t say ‘the army’ with the intensity,” she continued. “... But you say these names [Al Qaeda] because you want that word to carry weight. You want it to be something.” - Ilhan Omar
I'm actually looking forward to tomorrow for that reason alone. The guy could only lose thanks to Trump, a man who insulted his wife and who he had vouch for him anyway!