The Thread of Democrats

[Cunt]

What a joke, that the left has become the 'though police' party, while the republicans are backing free speech.

I've even had lefties mock the concept of free speech, because they think standing behind hate-speech legislation is a good thing.

Fucking crybabies. Look at how they try to paint anyone who isn't a Democrat as 'alt-right'.

Fuck, there are even registered democrats (like the non-a-bomber recently) who is obviously democrat AND obviously alt-right. Weird world to try to hold to a party position, but there are ALL the lefties, holding to it like it makes sense lol

[Forty Two]

Caravan Of Liberal Americans Makes Way Toward Socialist Paradise Of Venezuela

MEXICO—A migrant caravan full of leftists desiring to enter the socialist paradise of Venezuela departed the United States Thursday and began marching toward through Mexico, stating they will demand asylum so they might experience the far better life that socialism offers.

The migrants claim they are leaving America because of its high standards of living, strong economy, and record employment numbers, and hope to find a better life in Venezuela's much more equitable system.

"Everyone there has the same quantity of possessions and food," said one marcher. "Everyone makes millions of dollars, and very few people work. It's a real paradise." The refugees have complex motivations, but the vast majority simply want to see everything socialism has to offer after suffering the amazing benefits of capitalism for too long.

Caravan organizers dispelled rumors that they were funded by Bernie Sanders, claiming the caravan was an organic grassroots movement.

At its current pace, the caravan is expected to arrive just in time for Venezuela to run out of food entirely.

https://babylonbee.com/news/caravan-of- ... -venezuela

[pErvinalia]

So Democrats are socialists?

[Forty Two]

According to Gallup's latest numbers, most Democrats have a positive view of Socialism. But among Democrats and Democratic-leaning independents, 57% say they have a positive view of socialism. https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/pol ... 988558002/ That's approaching a supermajority. That should say a lot. They like it. They want it. Incrementalism is the order of the day, but they are favorably disposed to socialism.

Sanders, Ocasio-Cortez, Andrew Gillum, Kyrsten Sinema, Cynthia Nixon, Julia Salazar, Rashida Tlaib, James Thompson, Sarah Smith, dozens of Democrats supported by the Democratic Socialists of America are open socialists. Elizabeth Warren says she's a capitalist, but her policies say otherwise - she's still afraid to speak her true socialist name.

At the same time, other alleged socialist success stories like Sweden, Norway and Denmark have been moving steadily toward free enterprise after watching their socialist experiments fail. They don't have government "guaranteed jobs," there's no federally mandated minimum wage, and they require citizens to pay more out-of-pocket for health care than the U.S. does today.

What's more, Sweden and Denmark rank as more economically free than the U.S., according to the conservative Heritage Foundation. Norway is just a few steps behind.

At the bottom of the economic freedom list are socialist basket cases: Venezuela, Cuba and North Korea.

So why does socialism have such a grip on Democrats, and why do more than a third of all Americans have a favorable view of it?

No doubt part of the problem is the nation's education system, which regularly shovels out left-wing economic ideas to impressionable young students. That would explain why 51% of those 18-29 years old have a positive view of socialism.

No one has explained to them that free-market capitalism has been the most successful anti-poverty program in the history of mankind. It has raised living standards to once unimaginable levels everywhere it's been allowed to flourish. Socialism has without fail produced nothing but deprivation and misery.

Support for socialism drops as people age. Just 41% of those 30-49 like socialism, and just 28% of those 65 and over, showing that real-world experience eventually overcomes ideology.

Why Do Democrats Like Socialism?
But what explains the even higher level of support among Democrats? After all, this is the party that praises itself as being fact- and science-based.

True, Democrats have consistently been in favor of big-government programs. But it wasn't that long ago that Bill Clinton was espousing "New Democrat" ideas that focused first on growing the economy then on government benefits.

Since then, the leadership of the party has veered further to the left, and the activist wing has succeeded in driving out most of the remaining centrists. The success of avowed socialists in Democratic primaries this year is just another step in that direction.

You can laugh this all off as Democrats being misguided or naive. Or, as many the press insist, you can claim that Bernie Sanders and Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez aren't genuine socialists because they don't advocate government takeover of private businesses.

(Apparently, these folks have forgotten that Sanders, Ocasio-Cortez and several other leading Democrats, want to outlaw private insurance and nationalize the country's $3.3 trillion health care economy.)

The trouble is that Democrats are favored to take control of the House after the November midterms, bringing these leftists into positions of power. And a bad stumble by President Trump could create an opening for a far-left Democratic presidential candidate in 2020.

In other words, there is always the chance that the increasingly extremist Democratic Party will have the opportunity to impose its radical agenda on the rest of the country. That is nothing to laugh about.

https://www.investors.com/politics/edit ... tic-party/

[Forty Two]

https://www.investors.com/politics/edit ... io-cortez/

For example, our poll showed that 61% of the public — including 68% of independents — wanted a smaller government with fewer services. But 59% of Democrats wanted a bigger government and more services.

Nearly two thirds of Democrats said they supported a government-run health care system, compared with only 28% of independents and 8% of Republicans.

We reported on a Gallup poll in 2015 showing that Democrats had become far more liberal over the previous 15 years, while Republicans hadn't changed in their views much (and had moved leftward on some social issues).

Last year we looked at data from the Pew Research Center and found that the "center" of the Democratic Party had moved dramatically to left between 1994 and 2017. The center of the Republican Party had barely changed.

Yet, all along Democrats and their handmaidens in the press declared that Republicans were the ones who are ever-more extreme.

But with the increasingly harsh and often violent rhetoric coming from Democrats since President Trump won the election, and the coronation of socialist Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez — the veil has been lifted.

In fact, Democratic leaders are now on the defensive, claiming that despite all appearances to the contrary, their party isn't extremist, much less socialist.

House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi, after being asked if socialism was ascendant in the party, said "I don't accept any characterization of our party presented by the Republicans. So let me reject that right now."

Both Rep. Maxine Waters and Sen. Elizabeth Warren got pressed on the issue this week by CNBC's John Harwood, and both denied the "S" label.

"The Democratic Party is not a socialist party," Waters said. But then she followed that up by saying of socialist Bernie Sanders, "I consider him basically a Democrat."

Far-left Sen. Warren felt the need to make it clear that "I am a capitalist. Come on. I believe in markets."

For now, Democrats don't want to admit what their party has turned into, because the "socialist" brand isn't very popular.

But look at what it now stands for.

The Democratic base went head over heels for socialist Bernie Sanders in 2016, to the point where he nearly stole the nomination from Hillary Clinton — who said she struggled with her own party because they thought of her as a "capitalist."

Democrats have by and large embraced a "Medicare for all" health plan that would outlaw private insurance and is to the left of every other health system in the world, except maybe Cuba.

Many of the 2020 presidential hopefuls are on board with "government-guaranteed jobs," an idea last seen in the Soviet Union's constitution.

And, as if that weren't enough, Democratic Party Chairman Tom Perez called socialist Ocasio-Cortez "the future of our party."

We don't doubt that many Democrats are sincere in their belief that they are sensible centrists. And there's no doubt that some still are.

But when you live in an increasingly left-wing bubble, extremism can easily start to look mainstream. And that's precisely what's been happening, with an increasing leftist media, an aggressively left-wing base, and most of the moderates drummed out of the party.

Now the public at large is seeing what we've been pointing out for years. And that's a good thin

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[pErvinalia]

Sweden, Denmark and Norway aren't socialist. And neither are the policies of most of the "socialists" from the Democrats. They are all social democrats/democracies. Mixed systems (i.e. Nothing like Venezuela). When are you going to fucking get this?

[Joe]

Caravan Of Liberal Americans Makes Way Toward Socialist Paradise Of Venezuela

MEXICO—A migrant caravan full of leftists desiring to enter the socialist paradise of Venezuela departed the United States Thursday and began marching toward through Mexico, stating they will demand asylum so they might experience the far better life that socialism offers.

The migrants claim they are leaving America because of its high standards of living, strong economy, and record employment numbers, and hope to find a better life in Venezuela's much more equitable system.

"Everyone there has the same quantity of possessions and food," said one marcher. "Everyone makes millions of dollars, and very few people work. It's a real paradise." The refugees have complex motivations, but the vast majority simply want to see everything socialism has to offer after suffering the amazing benefits of capitalism for too long.

Caravan organizers dispelled rumors that they were funded by Bernie Sanders, claiming the caravan was an organic grassroots movement.

At its current pace, the caravan is expected to arrive just in time for Venezuela to run out of food entirely.

https://babylonbee.com/news/caravan-of- ... -venezuela

Fake news! No pussy hats.

[Hermit]

According to Gallup's latest numbers, most Democrats have a positive view of Socialism.

What socialism? Seems to be anything other than Milton Friedman's extreme laissez faire capitalism. This is reflected by the answers asked in the same poll to the following question in the same poll: "Just off the top of your head, would you say you have a positive or negative image of each of the following?" Small business 96%, Entrepreneurs 87%, Free enterprise 85%. US citizens, Republicans and Democrats, politicians and voters alike, seem to be blissfully ignorant of what 'socialism' actually means.

Near the bottom of the Gallup writeup on the poll it provides a helpful hint:

Gallup was describing socialism in questions asked in the 1940s in terms of government ownership of businesses -- something that Sanders, Ocasio-Cortez and most other left-leaning Democratic candidates have not advocated.

https://news.gallup.com/poll/240725/dem ... alism.aspx

[JimC]

What the Democrat responders probably meant by "socialism" was government working in the interests of the people rather than just 1% of them...

[Hermit]

...the nation's education system, which regularly shovels out left-wing economic ideas ... the leadership of the party has veered further to the left, and the activist wing has succeeded in driving out most of the remaining centrists. ... Democrats are favored to take control of the House after the November midterms, bringing these leftists into positions of power. ... the increasingly extremist Democratic Party

https://www.investors.com/politics/edit ... tic-party/

https://www.investors.com/politics/edit ... io-cortez/

the "center" of the Democratic Party had moved dramatically to left. ... the increasingly harsh and often violent rhetoric coming from Democrats ... the coronation of socialist Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez — the veil has been lifted. ... Far-left Sen. Elizabeth Warren ... socialist Bernie Sanders ... socialist Ocasio-Cortez ... an increasingly left-wing bubble, extremism can easily start to look mainstream. ... an increasing leftist media, an aggressively left-wing base

I have noticed your commentary has become increasingly shrill and hysterical over time, and especially so in the past two or three weeks. The articles you linked to here are exemplary of your underlying fear. You are increasingly fearful that the sky is about to fall on the land of the free, and desperate to the point of begging your compatriots not to vote Democrat. You're not far off panicking, and I begin to see the possibility that you'll lose your mind completely and do something horrific and headline grabbing.

[Animavore]

Jesus!

[pErvinalia]

He's come out fully in favour of Trump in the last week. There's no way a liberal and a moderate could support someone like Trump. He's really flipped his wig, I fear.

[Animavore]

[Animavore]

Speaking of panicking and flipping out.

[pErvinalia]

He's still running with the "enemy of the people" line. Dangerous idiot.