"The butt of global jokes": who might this be? (Talk Trump)

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Re: "The butt of global jokes": who might this be? (Talk Trump)

Post by Scot Dutchy » Mon Oct 29, 2018 2:19 pm

I never moved any goalposts. I dont play childish adversarial games which you Ozzies just love.
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Post by Brian Peacock » Mon Oct 29, 2018 3:08 pm

Scot Dutchy wrote:
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I just think that if you're going to get into a national pissing contest then you're going to have to go a long way to beat Scotland and unchallenged position as providing the progenitors of the social, economic, and ethical architecture of our post-Enlightenment Western civilization.
Really think so. You know nothing of the society you live in.
You'd deny Scotland's history and unrivalled contribution to Western civilization out of spite?
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Post by Scot Dutchy » Mon Oct 29, 2018 4:32 pm

Of course they have contributed but so have many others or is this a pissing contest.
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Post by Brian Peacock » Mon Oct 29, 2018 5:47 pm

Sorry, I didn't mean to hit a nerve there Scot, but I didn't say that Scotland had made the only contribution or deny the contributions of others, only that the Scottish influence was unrivalled - that Scotland occupies an unchallenged position at the vanguard. This is simply a fact, and while there undoubtedly is much to criticise in post-Enlightenment Scottish history, as elsewhere, my point countered the view that Dutch society "created merchants, philosophers and artists earlier than most countries".
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Post by Forty Two » Mon Oct 29, 2018 5:59 pm

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Of course they have contributed but so have many others or is this a pissing contest.
The biggest pissers are the Netherlanders.
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Post by Forty Two » Mon Oct 29, 2018 6:04 pm

Brian Peacock wrote:
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Sorry, I didn't mean to hit a nerve there Scot, but I didn't say that Scotland had made the only contribution or deny the contributions of others, only that the Scottish influence was unrivalled - that Scotland occupies and unchallenged position at the vanguard. This is simply a fact, and while there undoubtedly is much to criticise in post-Enlightenment Scottish history, as elsewhere, my point countered the view that Dutch society "created merchants, philosophers and artists earlier than most countries".
The Dutch invented the wheel and cuneiform writing. They were also early pioneers of pyramid building. The Dutch saved many of the scrolls from the great library of Alexandria, and they built six out of the seven wonders of the ancient world. Ancient Greece and Rome were populated by ethnic and racial Dutch and those cultures only went brunette and olive skinned with successive migrations and invasions from the east and the south.
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Post by Forty Two » Mon Oct 29, 2018 6:10 pm

Scot Dutchy wrote:
Mon Oct 29, 2018 2:07 pm
Brian Peacock wrote:
Mon Oct 29, 2018 1:17 pm
I just think that if you're going to get into a national pissing contest then you're going to have to go a long way to beat Scotland and unchallenged position as providing the progenitors of the social, economic, and ethical architecture of our post-Enlightenment Western civilization.
Really think so. You know nothing of the society you live in.
Adam Smith, David Hume, Adam Ferguson, George Campbell, Hector Boece? Morons!

The Scottish Enlightenment? More like a Scottish Dimlightenment!
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Re: "The butt of global jokes": who might this be? (Talk Trump)

Post by Scot Dutchy » Mon Oct 29, 2018 6:20 pm

Brian Peacock wrote:
Mon Oct 29, 2018 5:47 pm
Sorry, I didn't mean to hit a nerve there Scot, but I didn't say that Scotland had made the only contribution or deny the contributions of others, only that the Scottish influence was unrivalled - that Scotland occupies an unchallenged position at the vanguard. This is simply a fact, and while there undoubtedly is much to criticise in post-Enlightenment Scottish history, as elsewhere, my point countered the view that Dutch society "created merchants, philosophers and artists earlier than most countries".
Brian, Scotland made a considerable contribution but what happened to the rest. Social justice? Forget it. Education was encouraged but why? Not because of the good to the working classes but rather the middle classes wanted staff that could read and count. What happened after that "golden age"? Class divisions increased.
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Post by Tero » Tue Oct 30, 2018 12:09 am

He is unhappy. This election was not supposed to be pipe bombs and shot Jews. It was supposed to be Trump Trump Trump!

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Post by L'Emmerdeur » Tue Oct 30, 2018 4:53 am

Two scientists who study the issue have weighed in on the Trump administration proposal on how it thinks government should deal with transgender people. They refute the assertions it makes; they must have Trump Derangement Syndrome.

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Much of the time these processes all go in the same direction. But some of the time, they don’t. Seeing how that happens makes clear that the proposal, to define all people as male or female at birth, is scientifically dubious.

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Re: "The butt of global jokes": who might this be? (Talk Trump)

Post by Brian Peacock » Tue Oct 30, 2018 9:56 am

L'Emmerdeur wrote:Two scientists who study the issue have weighed in on the Trump administration proposal on how it thinks government should deal with transgender people. They refute the assertions it makes; they must have Trump Derangement Syndrome.

'The Trump Administration's Proposed "Redefinition" of Gender Is Scientifically Absurd'
According to a recent report in the New York Times, the Department of Health and Human Services is “considering narrowly defining gender as a biological, immutable condition determined by genitalia at birth.” While the department’s memo purports to be “grounded in science,” the arguments and conclusions are not. Specifically, the memo argues that sex should be determined by—at different points in the purported memo—birth certificates, genitals and genetics. The problem with this argument is that none of these markers of sex is “definitive proof of a person’s sex” and in fact, nothing is. In reality, the course of becoming a “male” or “female” involves several steps, regulated by many genes and hormones.

Much of the time these processes all go in the same direction. But some of the time, they don’t. Seeing how that happens makes clear that the proposal, to define all people as male or female at birth, is scientifically dubious.
Ah, but you see, those scientists are not making the correct and necessary distinction between sex and gender, therefore they're wrong because reasons. And if scientists are wrong on that fundamental matter then Trump must, perforce, be right as his administration's definition is the only other game in town. This is how reason trumps science.

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