Because poverty, a big part owing to our history of slavery and racism resulting in ghettos full of angry young black men who continue to be preyed upon by a corrupt justice system.Rum wrote: ↑Fri Sep 07, 2018 3:12 pmI think you are being defensive. I wasn't suggesting that America was bad and the rest of us were angels. Europe has a long history of death and destruction as you say. But there is something in the founding myths and history of your country that seems to glorify it to some extent.Sean Hayden wrote: ↑Fri Sep 07, 2018 3:06 pmSeriously Europe, do you guys even study your history? You've had wars longer than we've been a nation! What shall I make of you lot based on that? Nothing I suppose because you've put together a few decades of peace...not counting violence elsewhere...
Just trying to add to the conversation about why you guys shoot each other in the tens of thousands ffs.
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Or did you guys really think it was John Wayne? 
Our violence is the result of incredible inequalities that we deny, deny, deny.

Our violence is the result of incredible inequalities that we deny, deny, deny.
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That makes more sense to me than anything I've read.
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Do you suppose that if guns were to suddenly vanish by some deus ex machina, or whatever, from the United States that the violence would suddenly cease?Rum wrote: ↑Fri Sep 07, 2018 3:12 pmI think you are being defensive. I wasn't suggesting that America was bad and the rest of us were angels. Europe has a long history of death and destruction as you say. But there is something in the founding myths and history of your country that seems to glorify it to some extent.Sean Hayden wrote: ↑Fri Sep 07, 2018 3:06 pmSeriously Europe, do you guys even study your history? You've had wars longer than we've been a nation! What shall I make of you lot based on that? Nothing I suppose because you've put together a few decades of peace...not counting violence elsewhere...
Just trying to add to the conversation about why you guys shoot each other in the tens of thousands ffs.
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Depends what king, Louis XIV loved war too much, he himself said so, but Henry IV did all he could to bring back peace between the warring catholic and protestant factions.and the Romans accultured the Celts, they did not exterminate them and confine the on the rez...Sean Hayden wrote: ↑Fri Sep 07, 2018 3:11 pm, you have to admit that the country is founded on violence
Vs France, you must be joking? We're practically saints compared to Europe.![]()
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that's what they were designed for, and that's why every American is entitled to have weaponry to defend themselves and serve as militia when needed.
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clubs, knives, bow and arrow...Śiva wrote: ↑Fri Sep 07, 2018 3:27 pmDo you suppose that if guns were to suddenly vanish by some deus ex machina, or whatever, from the United States that the violence would suddenly cease?Rum wrote: ↑Fri Sep 07, 2018 3:12 pmI think you are being defensive. I wasn't suggesting that America was bad and the rest of us were angels. Europe has a long history of death and destruction as you say. But there is something in the founding myths and history of your country that seems to glorify it to some extent.Sean Hayden wrote: ↑Fri Sep 07, 2018 3:06 pmSeriously Europe, do you guys even study your history? You've had wars longer than we've been a nation! What shall I make of you lot based on that? Nothing I suppose because you've put together a few decades of peace...not counting violence elsewhere...
Just trying to add to the conversation about why you guys shoot each other in the tens of thousands ffs.
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So... you are willing to admit that guns are not the cause of the violence that kills so many?Svartalf wrote: ↑Fri Sep 07, 2018 3:31 pmclubs, knives, bow and arrow...Śiva wrote: ↑Fri Sep 07, 2018 3:27 pmDo you suppose that if guns were to suddenly vanish by some deus ex machina, or whatever, from the United States that the violence would suddenly cease?Rum wrote: ↑Fri Sep 07, 2018 3:12 pmI think you are being defensive. I wasn't suggesting that America was bad and the rest of us were angels. Europe has a long history of death and destruction as you say. But there is something in the founding myths and history of your country that seems to glorify it to some extent.Sean Hayden wrote: ↑Fri Sep 07, 2018 3:06 pmSeriously Europe, do you guys even study your history? You've had wars longer than we've been a nation! What shall I make of you lot based on that? Nothing I suppose because you've put together a few decades of peace...not counting violence elsewhere...
Just trying to add to the conversation about why you guys shoot each other in the tens of thousands ffs.
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Of course they are not the cause, they are the means... ease of procuring the means simply facilitates the violence happening.
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Well, they're "fully semi-automatic" for a start. Unlike WWII weaponry like the M1, oh, wait....
Yeah well that's just, like, your opinion, man.
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Then the proper path to ending the violence is not the confiscation of firearms, but the pursuit of the root cause of the violence. Yes?
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like inequality and the putting down of some population categories?
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