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Post by L'Emmerdeur » Mon Jul 30, 2018 2:15 pm

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Trump's lawyer Rudy Giuliani on Monday dismissed the investigation into suspected collusion between the Trump campaign and Russia, saying that collusion is “not a crime.”

“I have been sitting here looking in the federal code trying to find collusion as a crime,” Giuliani said on “Fox & Friends.” “Collusion is not a crime.”

The president’s attorney maintained that his client is “absolutely innocent” and said that the recently released tapes of conversations between Trump and his former lawyer Michael Cohen prove that he “didn’t do anything wrong.”
Giuliani is being thoroughly disingenuous. He knows perfectly well that there are laws against criminal conspiracy; collusion by another name. This was written a year ago, before the various indictments resulting from the investigation appeared.

'Yes, Colluding With Russians to Interfere with the Election Is a Crime'
[Supporters of the president] imply the investigations must be politically motivated because collusion with Russians to interfere with our election, even if it did take place, would not be criminal.

No one knows yet what the various investigations will reveal. It’s certainly possible that no criminal misconduct will be found. But it’s wrong to suggest that criminal law is not even implicated here. If Trump campaign officials actively worked with Russians seeking to influence the outcome of the election, there are a number of potential criminal violations.

[Proceeds to list at least some of said criminal violations.]
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Post by Tero » Mon Jul 30, 2018 9:53 pm

WASHINGTON—Saying the reports were a ludicrous attempt by the mainstream media to discredit him, President Donald Trump vehemently denied Monday the existence of 2016 Russia meeting commemorative merchandise available at the Trump Tower gift shop. “There is absolutely no evidence to suggest that exquisite, handcrafted Trump–Russia meeting decorative plates are on sale for just $39.99 per plate or $199.99 for the entire six-plate set,” said the president, noting that if such collectibles did exist, they would no doubt feature the portraits and signatures of those who attended the meeting as well as a bonus silver souvenir spoon hand-stamped with the date “6/9/16” at no extra charge. “Despite what CNN might tell you, there is no proof that special-edition T-shirts featuring my son Donald Jr. making a handshake deal with Russian nationals to provide our campaign with dirt on Hillary Clinton are going fast and won’t be on the racks for long. Furthermore, we cannot corroborate that a 2016 Russia Meeting stein handsomely emblazoned with the word ‘COLLUSION’ would make the perfect gift for birthdays, anniversaries, or graduations.” At press time, Trump denied that the low-low prices on the commemorative merchandise would be affected by recent tariffs on Chinese goods.
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Post by L'Emmerdeur » Tue Jul 31, 2018 11:20 am

You know, that big US tax cut that mainly benefitted corporations and the wealthy really didn't go far enough. They're still suffering under the hobnailed boots of the IRS; their natural tendency to create jobs and invest in improving all Americans' lives is being stifled intolerably.

'Trump administration weighs $100 billion tax break for capital gains'
The Trump administration is studying a plan to cut capital gains taxes by $100 billion over 10 years by factoring in inflation, it was reported Monday.

Treasure Secretary Steven Mnuchin said in an interview on the sidelines of the Group of 20 summit meeting in Argentina earlier this month that his department was studying whether it could issue regulations on its own — without going to Congress — to allow Americans to account for inflation in determining capital gains tax liabilities, the New York Times reported.

Treasury could redefine “cost” for calculating capital gains, allowing taxpayers to adjust the initial value of an asset, such as a home or a share of stock, for inflation when they sell them.

“If it can’t get done through a legislation process, we will look at what tools at Treasury we have to do it on our own and we’ll consider that,” Mnuchin told the paper, saying he wasn’t sure that his department had the authority to act alone.

“We are studying that internally, and we are also studying the economic costs and the impact on growth.”

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“It would just be a very generous addition to the tax cuts they’ve already handed to the very wealthy,” Alexandra Thornton, senior director of tax policy at the liberal Center for American Progress, told the paper.

But some Republicans were gung-ho, saying the change would produce a windfall for the government as stock sales boom.

“I think we ought to look at not penalizing Americans for inflation,” said Rep. Kevin Brady of Texas, the Republican chairman of the Ways and Means Committee.

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Post by Scot Dutchy » Tue Jul 31, 2018 12:14 pm

I dont find the Onion funny anymore.
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Post by Tero » Tue Jul 31, 2018 12:32 pm

it's tough to be funny with stuff that turns out close to true.

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Post by Scot Dutchy » Tue Jul 31, 2018 3:28 pm

Death of a Nation: more angry nonsense from Trump's favorite film-maker
In the embarrassing new film from the far-right provocateur Dinesh D’Souza, he compares Donald Trump to Abraham Lincoln, claims Hitler was LGBT-friendly and calls Antifa the real Nazis
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Post by L'Emmerdeur » Tue Jul 31, 2018 3:59 pm

"I hope you can see your way clear..." Next up: Rudy Giuliani swears up and down that his client never said those words.

'Flynn, Comey, and Mueller: What Trump Knew and When He Knew It'
Previously undisclosed evidence in the possession of Special Counsel Robert Mueller—including highly confidential White House records and testimony by some of President Trump’s own top aides—provides some of the strongest evidence to date implicating the president of the United States in an obstruction of justice. Several people who have reviewed a portion of this evidence say that, based on what they know, they believe it is now all but inevitable that the special counsel will complete a confidential report presenting evidence that President Trump violated the law. Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein, who oversees the special counsel’s work, would then decide on turning over that report to Congress for the House of Representatives to consider whether to instigate impeachment proceedings.

The central incident in the case that the president obstructed justice was provided by former FBI Director James B. Comey, who testified that Trump pressed Comey, in a private Oval Office meeting on February 14, 2017, to shut down an FBI criminal investigation of Trump’s former national security adviser, Lt. Gen. Michael Flynn. “I hope you can see your way clear to letting this go, to letting Flynn go,” Comey has testified the president told him.

In an effort to convince Mueller that President Trump did not obstruct justice, the president’s attorneys have argued that the president could not have broken the law because the president did not know that Flynn was under criminal investigation when he pressured Comey to go easy on Flynn. In a confidential January 29 letter to the special counsel first reported by The New York Times, two of the president’s attorneys, John Dowd (who no longer represents Trump) and Jay Sekulow, maintained that the president did not obstruct justice because, even though Flynn had been questioned by the FBI, Trump believed that the FBI investigation was over, and that Flynn had been told that he’d been cleared.

On its face, this is a counter-intuitive argument—for if Trump believed that Flynn had been cleared and was no longer under investigation, there would have been no reason for the president to lean on Comey to end the FBI’s investigation—telling Comey that Trump hoped that Comey would be able to “see your way clear to letting this go.” Yet Trump’s attorneys have pursued this line of argument with the special counsel because perjury and obstruction cases depend largely on whether a prosecutor can demonstrate the intent and motivation of the person they want to charge. It’s not enough to prove that the person under investigation attempted to impede an ongoing criminal investigation; the statute requires a prosecutor to prove that the person did so with the corrupt intent to protect either himself or someone else from prosecution.

If, therefore, Trump understood the legal jeopardy that Flynn faced, that would demonstrate such intent—and make for a much stronger case for obstruction against the president. Conversely, if Trump believed that Flynn was no longer under criminal investigation, or had been cleared, the president could not have had corrupt intent. But previously undisclosed evidence indicates just the opposite—that President Trump was fully informed that Flynn was the target of prosecutors.

I have learned that a confidential White House memorandum, which is in the special counsel’s possession, explicitly states that when Trump pressured Comey he had just been told by two of his top aides—his then chief of staff Reince Priebus and his White House counsel Don McGahn—that Flynn was under criminal investigation. This memo, the existence of which I first disclosed in December in Foreign Policy, was, as one source described it to me, “a timeline of events [in the White House] leading up to Flynn’s resignation.” It was dated February 15, 2017, and was prepared by McGahn two days after Flynn’s forced resignation and one day after Trump’s meeting with Comey. As I reported, research for the memo was “primarily conducted by John Eisenberg, the deputy counsel to the president and legal adviser to the National Security Council,” who, in turn, was “assisted by James Burnham, another White House counsel staff member.”

...

The February 15 memo, combined with accounts given to the special counsel by Priebus and McGahn, constitutes the most compelling evidence we yet know of that Donald Trump may have obstructed justice. In an effort to persuade the American people that the president has done nothing wrong, Trump and his supporters have blamed those they identify as their political adversaries—from President Barack Obama to Jim Comey, and including entire institutions such as the FBI and CIA, and an ill-defined “Deep State.” But the most compelling evidence that the president may have obstructed justice appears to come from his own most senior and loyal aides. The greatest threat to his presidency is not from his enemies, real or perceived, but from his allies within the White House.


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Post by Seabass » Wed Aug 01, 2018 4:04 am

Manchurian Idiot and Sessions were warned, but they did it anyway.
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/t ... icial-says
Trump administration was warned of ‘traumatic psychological injury’ from family separations, official says

A top health official told lawmakers Tuesday that the Trump administration was warned about instituting “any policy” resulting in family separations because of the effects such separations could have on the wellbeing of immigrant children.

The official’s response came after Sen. Richard Blumenthal, D-Conn., asked every federal immigration official at Tuesday’s hearing over family separations to answer a particular question: “Did anyone on this panel say, maybe [separating families] wasn’t such a good idea?”

After a pause, Blumenthal directed his question first to Commander Jonathan White of the U.S. Public Health Service Commissioned Corps, who said he and the Office of Refugee Resettlement raised a number of concerns in the previous year about “any policy which would result in family separation due to concerns we had about the best interest of the child as well about whether that would be operationally supportable with the bed capacity we had.”

The Democratic senator asked the commander to further explain his response in layman’s terms, asking if he told the administration that children would “suffer” as a result of its “zero tolerance” policy.

“There’s no question that separation of children from parents entails significant potential for traumatic psychological injury to the child.”
“Separation of children from their parents entails significant harm to children,” White said in response. “There’s no question that separation of children from parents entails significant potential for traumatic psychological injury to the child,” he added, shortly after.

White also said that the administration’s response was that family separation was not a policy. As stated before, there is no current law that mandates the separation of migrant children from their parents at the U.S. border.

The Trump administration implemented its “zero tolerance” policy this spring. President Donald Trump signed an executive order in June to halt the separations.

In recent weeks, lawsuits filed against the separation policy have produced testimonies from lawyers and the separated families they represent, alleging that the government’s actions resulted in trauma to their children.

In one personal declaration presented earlier this month in court, one mother said her son “is not the same since we were reunited.”

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Post by Scot Dutchy » Wed Aug 01, 2018 9:45 am

Donald Trump claims Americans need ID to buy groceries at Florida rally
Donald Trump has wrongly claimed Americans need photo identification to buy groceries, prompting a slew of accusations he is out of touch with the lives of ordinary people.

The US president made the remarks in a freewheeling speech at a Florida rally, during which he defended his trade policy and accused Democrats of obstructing his agenda.

Mr Trump was railing against the idea of non-US citizens voting and advocating stricter voting laws when he said IDs were required for everything else, including food shopping.

“Only American citizens should vote in American elections, which is why the time has come for voter ID, like everything else,” he said at the event at the Florida State Fairgrounds in Tampa.
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Post by Brian Peacock » Wed Aug 01, 2018 11:37 am


L'Emmerdeur wrote:...

Giuliani is being thoroughly disingenuous.

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An admirable quality in a lawyer. :)
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Post by Animavore » Wed Aug 01, 2018 12:31 pm

The human cost of Trump.
A Migrant Boy Rejoins His Mother, but He’s Not the Same

PHILADELPHIA — Before they were separated at the southwest border, Ana Carolina Fernandes’s 5-year-old son loved playing with the yellow, impish Minion characters from the “Despicable Me” movies. Now his favorite game is patting down and shackling “migrants” with plastic cuffs.

After being separated from his mother for 50 days, Thiago isn’t the same boy who was taken away from her by Border Patrol agents when they arrived in the United States from Brazil, Ms. Fernandes said last week.

When they first got home after being reunited, the boy — whom she hadn’t nursed in years — pleaded to be breast-fed. When visitors showed up at the family’s new home in Philadelphia, he crouched behind the sofa.

“He’s been like that since I got him back,” Ms. Fernandes said. “He doesn’t want to talk to anyone.”
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Post by L'Emmerdeur » Wed Aug 01, 2018 2:05 pm

Living in fantasy-land:

'QAnon Conspiracy Theorists Make Very Noticeable Appearance at Trump’s Florida Rally'
A large number of conspiracy theorists pushing the so-called “QAnon” theory made a hard-to-miss appearance at President Donald Trump’s rally for Republican lawmaker and gubernatorial candidate Ron DeSantis in Tampa, Florida, as countless crazed activists wore “Q” themed gear and flashed signs pushing the baseless idea tonight.

The QAnon conspiracy theory alleges that there is a global, multi-pronged Illuminati-esque force conspiring against the president and all things good and decent in the world, and Trump is standing steadfast against that force and working behind the scenes to take them down. The word itself comes from an anonymous 4Chan user who refers to himself simply as “Q,” which is a reference to a high-level government security clearance, while the “anon” part comes from Internet slang referencing an anonymous forum poster.

The theory started on fringe message board sites like 4Chan and 8Chan as early as fall of 2017, but has since spread to all corners of the Internet where baby boomer conservatives can be found. The man known as “Q” — which many who believe in the myth think is Trump himself or someone in his administration — began leaving clues, or “breadcrumbs,” behind for fellow MAGA supporters to find so they could learn about the president’s secret intentions to overthrow the evil globalist cabal.

Of course, all of these claims are totally baseless and unfounded, but that didn’t stop numerous Trump supporters from showing up to the president’s Tampa rally today flaunting #QAnon gear and attempting to push the conspiracy — which they may have, as a number of their claims appeared on broadcasts of the event, including Fox News and Fox Business.

Additionally, other Trump supporters arrived to the rally waving signs pushing the Seth Rich murder theories — another far-right conspiracy that claims the Democratic Party and Hillary Clinton are behind the killing of a young DNC staffer in Washington, D.C.
I think that more Trump supporters will find themselves joining the conspiracy-minded fringe as more indications of their Dear Leader's meretricious actions come to light.

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Post by L'Emmerdeur » Wed Aug 01, 2018 2:22 pm

Animavore wrote:
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The human cost of Trump.

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Look what they made the Trump administration do. It's all their own fault.

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