Hard Brexit or Hard Brexit

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Whose Hard Brexit do you want to get shafted by?

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Labour's Hard Brexit!
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Tory Hard Brexit
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Cheese or bacon or something
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88%
 
Total votes: 8

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Re: Hard Brexit or Hard Brexit

Post by Jason » Wed Jul 25, 2018 5:10 pm

It's been a long time since I've been to my native Quebec... I seem to remember hearing "Ta farme tu ta yeule" a lot though.

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Re: Hard Brexit or Hard Brexit

Post by Jason » Wed Jul 25, 2018 6:09 pm

Śiva wrote:
Wed Jul 25, 2018 5:10 pm
It's been a long time since I've been to my native Quebec... I seem to remember hearing "Ta farme tu ta yeule" a lot though.
My mistake. That should be "ferme ta gueule." :tea:

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Re: Hard Brexit or Hard Brexit

Post by Svartalf » Wed Jul 25, 2018 6:32 pm

well, I assumed it did mean that, only with Jouale accent
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Re: Hard Brexit or Hard Brexit

Post by JimC » Wed Jul 25, 2018 9:37 pm

Rum wrote:
Wed Jul 25, 2018 3:49 pm
Feed The Wold? Don’t they know it’s Brexit?
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Re: Hard Brexit or Hard Brexit

Post by rainbow » Thu Jul 26, 2018 6:57 am

Svartalf wrote:
Wed Jul 25, 2018 5:04 pm
câlisse de binne, vous exageaérez monsieur
on ne parle pas le Quebecien :sulk:
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Re: Hard Brexit or Hard Brexit

Post by Scot Dutchy » Thu Jul 26, 2018 7:22 am

Are you guys in the UK stockpiling? The government is.

Brexit: Theresa May tells Britain not to worry despite admitting plans to stockpile food, blood and medicine
Theresa May has urged voters not to worry about Brexit, despite her government setting out plans to stockpile food, blood and medicine in case it goes badly.

She said people should take “reassurance and comfort” from news of the plans, to be implemented if the UK crashes out of the EU without an agreement in March next year.

The scenario is looking increasingly likely given deep divisions in the Conservatives over Ms May’s approach, her wafer thin commons majority and the EU’s on-going resistance to what the prime minister is proposing.
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Re: Hard Brexit or Hard Brexit

Post by Rum » Thu Jul 26, 2018 7:41 am

What exactly do you expect them to do? Given that a 'no deal' exist is a possibility and the implications of that are unpredictable do you expect them not to plan for contingencies? What would the public say if we leave with no decent plan in place and the government say 'doh, we messed up and forgot to make plans' as stuff backs up at ports and entry points to the country.

I hope it doesn't happen of course but the government is right to make plans.

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Re: Hard Brexit or Hard Brexit

Post by Scot Dutchy » Thu Jul 26, 2018 8:00 am

But Brexit even with a no-deal was going to be a doddle according to Farrage and BoJo.
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Re: Hard Brexit or Hard Brexit

Post by Brian Peacock » Thu Jul 26, 2018 9:06 am

Rum wrote:Feed The Wold? Don’t they know it’s Brexit?
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Re: Hard Brexit or Hard Brexit

Post by Brian Peacock » Thu Jul 26, 2018 9:09 am

Rum wrote:What exactly do you expect them to do? Given that a 'no deal' exist is a possibility and the implications of that are unpredictable do you expect them not to plan for contingencies? What would the public say if we leave with no decent plan in place and the government say 'doh, we messed up and forgot to make plans' as stuff backs up at ports and entry points to the country.

I hope it doesn't happen of course but the government is right to make plans.
This government would never say "D'oh! We messed up." They'd blame the EU, the next Labour government, immigrants, or anyone else in spitting distance.
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Re: Hard Brexit or Hard Brexit

Post by PsychoSerenity » Thu Jul 26, 2018 2:47 pm

Rum wrote:
Thu Jul 26, 2018 7:41 am
What exactly do you expect them to do? Given that a 'no deal' exist is a possibility and the implications of that are unpredictable do you expect them not to plan for contingencies? What would the public say if we leave with no decent plan in place and the government say 'doh, we messed up and forgot to make plans' as stuff backs up at ports and entry points to the country.

I hope it doesn't happen of course but the government is right to make plans.
I would like to expect them to stop breaking their promises but I don't think they will. No deal is only a possibility because they've gone back on their agreement from last year to accept the EU's Northern Ireland backstop suggestion and their commitments to negotiate in good faith which they are failing to do by only ever putting forward proposals that they already know cross EU red lines.

As it is I don't expect the government will make appropriate contingency plans. I don't trust them to have the competence or compassion necessary to make sure people aren't going hungry. The need for foodbanks has increased dramatically as a direct result of universal credit and other deeply flawed an inhumane policies, and they push on with them regardless.

There are people holding much sway at the top of the Tory party that want us to crash out with no deal, that want to bring the country to its knees, giving themselves more power specifically so they can push forwards with deregulation and profit by selling us cheaply produced goods at scarcity driven high prices. Last week they voted down an amendment that would ensure parliament could vote on and therefore properly scrutinise future trade deals. All our rights and the high standards we've come to expect are at risk of being sold off to the highest bidder, and they know that desperate and hungry people are more likely to accept whatever is offered.

I really hope I'm wrong.
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Re: Hard Brexit or Hard Brexit

Post by Scot Dutchy » Thu Jul 26, 2018 3:20 pm

The Brexit backstop is the 51st State of the USA.
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Re: Hard Brexit or Hard Brexit

Post by Jason » Thu Jul 26, 2018 5:05 pm

rainbow wrote:
Thu Jul 26, 2018 6:57 am
Svartalf wrote:
Wed Jul 25, 2018 5:04 pm
câlisse de binne, vous exageaérez monsieur
on ne parle pas le Quebecien :sulk:
My mom is a Wakefield native and she'd say "câline de bine" fairly often. But I also remember my older sister saying "câlisse" sometimes.

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Re: Hard Brexit or Hard Brexit

Post by Svartalf » Thu Jul 26, 2018 6:56 pm

Well, the original is calice, same church origin as cibouère or tabarnac...
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Ministers 'misleading public' after denying that plans to 'turn Kent into a giant lorry park' are because of Brexit

Post by cronus » Tue Jul 31, 2018 4:44 pm

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/p ... 71276.html

Ministers 'misleading public' after denying that plans to 'turn Kent into a giant lorry park' are because of Brexit

“Food will rot on the motorway and jobs are at risk as manufacturing supply chains are muddled and slowed by Brexit. We cannot let minister use secrecy to railroad the concerns of councils about Brexit.”

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